I went over this... Where were the Packers 3 years after Sherman was fired as GM? In an NFC Championship game they lost by a FG in OT. So, who is responsible for the team that was on the field that day? It can't be Ted Thompson if it takes 3 years blah, blah, blah...it would be Mike Sherman's team on the field as he left 3 years before that game. Ted Thompson would not get credit for it under your formula of waiting 3 years to judge. Sherman gets the credit for that NFC Championship appearance under your scenario. So, with Ted's team, we had one magical SB run, which was no doubt glorious, and one win vs. a Joe Webb Viking led team in the playoffs. We've made the playoffs that many times with TT's team and have gone one and done way too often. Our team obviously doesn't have a very good chance if the majority of it's playoff appearances ended in one and done. Being one and done is a major failure...one that should be unacceptable. When the same team ends your season, twice in a row, when you have the better QB is even more of a failure.
No way on this earth I extend Ted Thompson until after this season... if we bow out in Round 1...or don't make the playoffs it's time for both Mike McCarthy and Ted Thompson to go. 4 straight years of playoff failure is not good enough.
Tom Brady has 4 SuperBowl appearances and SIX AFC Championship appearances.
I think many of us feel Aaron is Brady's equal if not superior in terms of talent. Clearly, our TEAM isn't very good around Aaron or he'd be wracking up the kind of numbers Brady has in the post season. Aaron has ONE NFC Championship appearance as a starter under TT. Brady has SIX. Brady was a 3 time SB winner before he was 28. Aaron is 30 now and has but one appearance in a SB or Conference championship as a starter. Again, Brady 4 Rodgers 1 in SB's. Brady 6 Rodgers 1 in championship game appearances.
Meanwhile, I believe many Packers fans have overestimated our "greatness" one Conference championship vs. 6 of Tom Brady. Further, Colin Kaepernick has been to 2 NFC championships in back to back years...already more than Aaron Rodgers. How you think we should stick with this plan we're on is baffling to me...Aaron's career will be over soon and we'll all get to talk about one SB like we did with Brett. Spare me the talk about how tough it is to get to the SB. Brady has been there 4 times... Big Ben has been there several times. Rodgers...ONCE. Not good enough...not even close. Ted Thompson has failed with the greatest passer of all time to give him a team to get to 2nd SB much less get out of the first freaking round. How you're content and happy with this stuff is mindboggling. Again, NFC Championship appearances as a starter... Kaepernick 2 Rodgers 1.
Originally Posted by: uffda udfa
Super Bowl wins as a starter... Rodgers 1 Kaepernick 0
Three years isn’t some sort of bulletproof philosophy. I’m pretty sure you could’ve judged Clay Matthews after year No. 2 and I’m pretty sure you can judge Eddie Lacy right now. Regardless, by 2007, many of Sherman’s draft picks flunked out of the league. They weren’t on that 2007 team or any other, so I don’t know why you’re giving him credit for that season. Thompson enacted an incredible rebuilding project. He gutted the team in his first season as general manager. This is what started the animosity between Favre and Thompson.
Ryan Grant, Greg Jennings, James Jones, Daryn Colledge, Jason Spitz, Ryan Pickett, Charles Woodson, Atari Bigby, Nick Collins, A.J. Hawk, and Brady Poppinga were all players signed, acquired, or drafted by Thompson. That’s half the starting lineup.
Sherman drafted Aaron Kampman, Nick Barnett, Corey Williams and Scott Wells. He brought in Cullen Jenkins and Al Harris. Six players in three years isn't very good.
Look at Ron Wolf, though. He drafted Donald Driver, Mark Tauscher, Chad Clifton, and Bubba Franks. He also traded for Brett Favre. KGB played a big role on that team as a pass rush specialist. Wolf drafted him as well. By ‘07, Wolf was out of the game for six years, and he still had as big as an impact on the ‘07 team as Sherman did. Thompson, of course, had the biggest.
As far as the Patriots go, they played in three Super Bowls before Thompson became Green Bay’s general manager, and before Rodgers was even in the NFL. They actually have zero Super Bowl titles since Thompson's been GM of the Packers. Brady has one Super Bowl appearance above the age of 30. Who’s to say Rodgers won’t have two or three?
Based on your logic, in the 1970s, you would’ve been clamoring for the Raiders, Cowboys, and Dolphins to blow things up because they weren’t the Steelers. The ‘90s Packers weren’t the Cowboys, but I don’t recall many people wishing away Wolf. It seems to me that your case against Thompson is that Green Bay's not winning the Super Bowl every year (or every other), so the Pack need a change at the top. That is not how the top NFL franchises operate. Who does that? Dallas (post Jimmy Johnson), Washington (Daniel Snyder Era), and Oakland (90s-present) come to mind.