So, that is what you're saying is sabotage? How's that different from a team picking up a player and getting tips from them? The NFL is full of saboteurs under that pretense.

If he went out of his way to make the contact to try and give other teams pointers on the Packers, sure that's a dick move, but not sabotage. Teams acquire players all the time for the purpose of acquiring intel on their previous team. If you're not smart enough to tweak things, then that's on you.

Kind of switching directions here, I wonder how Reggie White plays into this. I believe the Packers regretted not retiring his number earlier than they did.

I would rather numbers be taken out of circulation for X amount of years than them being disallowed forever. I grew up being a big Dale Earnhardt fan and when they announce his number would be used again, a big part of me was glad. It sparked a lot of memories and what not about Dale. Otherwise if the number had been abolished, then it's going to go into the abyss of out of sight, out of mind.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

How many of these "other players" that you are referring to are going to have their number retired by the Packers? Zero.
How many of these other players are going to have their number retired by some other NFL franchise? Zero no doubt.

Originally Posted by: wpr 

Jerry Rice.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

So, that is what you're saying is sabotage? How's that different from a team picking up a player and getting tips from them? The NFL is full of saboteurs under that pretense.

If he went out of his way to make the contact to try and give other teams pointers on the Packers, sure that's a dick move, but not sabotage. Teams acquire players all the time for the purpose of acquiring intel on their previous team. If you're not smart enough to tweak things, then that's on you.

Kind of switching directions here, I wonder how Reggie White plays into this. I believe the Packers regretted not retiring his number earlier than they did.

I would rather numbers be taken out of circulation for X amount of years than them being disallowed forever. I grew up being a big Dale Earnhardt fan and when they announce his number would be used again, a big part of me was glad. It sparked a lot of memories and what not about Dale. Otherwise if the number had been abolished, then it's going to go into the abyss of out of sight, out of mind.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

People expect you to tell your new team about the team you used to be on. But going to the opponents of your old team and helping them out of spite, just to hurt their chances to win, is just plain dirty.

Favre wasn't even in the same conference. The only reason he had to help the Lions, Vikings and Bears beat the Packers is to hurt the Packers.

#4 can join #5 on the numbers no longer available for use list.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 

I don't even care about the sharing of the playbook, if that indeed occurred. I view that just the same as doing some shitty things while being all butt-hurt after a bad breakup. Things get said, things happen, and regrets linger. It doesn't mean anything more than being pissed off and caught up in the moment. People move forward, and they (should) forgive, as long as the feeling is mutual on both sides.

It's old boring history to me now. I'd rather focus on his career as a very good Green Bay Packers quarterback. But I simply can't put the energy into holding grudges, especially for anything that occurred during this situation. It wasn't like anything TRULY bad happened, imo. It was just all stupid crap.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 

The thing is that people are talking about doing a great honor to Favre by retiring his number. An honor I think he doesn't deserve.

Mostly because I don't think he was good enough.

But someone who did something as dishonorable as trying to put his team over the salary cap and then sabotaging the team because he couldn't get his way, should also be accountable for his actions.

It isn't an issue to me if we are not talking about paying such an honor to him. Because he didn't earn it. There are better players and better men that are not included in that honor. It would show a great deal of disrespect to those players to heap this honor on Faver after what he did.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 

He needs to come back a few times before they retire the jersey. Otherwise he looks a little mercenary. Be a friend first before the marriage so to speak.

Originally Posted by: wpr 

The thing is that people are talking about doing a great honor to Favre by retiring his number. An honor I think he doesn't deserve.

Mostly because I don't think he was good enough.

But someone who did something as dishonorable as trying to put his team over the salary cap and then sabotaging the team because he couldn't get his way, should also be accountable for his actions.

It isn't an issue to me if we are not talking about paying such an honor to him. Because he didn't earn it. There are better players and better men that are not included in that honor. It would show a great deal of disrespect to those players to heap this honor on Faver after what he did.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister