nerdmann
11 years ago

I don't agree with the "slow replacement". When you have 29 players miss games and you can only have 53 on the roster, there is only so much you can do. There is always a limit to your depth. When they are all hurt, you are out of roster spots. It isn't like you can find pro bowl safties walking around on the street.

As much as Thompson has been able to find great players on the scrap heap, the are really few players available mid season that will come in and even be average. Much less replace a Collins.

Wood was actually replaced by Hayward who was an upgrade in 2012.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



Our first rounder was sitting on the bench.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
beast
11 years ago

Wood was actually replaced by Hayward who was an upgrade in 2012.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Our first rounder was sitting on the bench.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



If you're talking about 2012, Perry was starting until he was injured.

If you're talking about 2013, then you might have to remember rookies have to adjust to the NFL. In fact none of Thompson 1st pick started as rookies EXCEPT the LBers and Bulaga... and Bulaga was a backup until an injury got him into the starting lineup.

If you watch the rookies, you'll notice it normally takes them a bit of time to adjust to playing in the NFL... other than maybe LBers and RBs which seem to be able to adjust more easily (normally).


Also some teams seem to try to draft players that are more ready to go right off the bat... but those guys either go VERY high in the draft or have a lower potential to devolop. The Packers seem to draft guys with high potential high in the draft and so if the devolop them they become a lot better player even if they're not able to play right away. Worked out pretty well with a number of Packers players... devolop them with time, not throw them in right away... especially if they DON'T EARN playing time... they got to earn it, by devoloping.



UserPostedImage
warhawk
11 years ago
It's a team sport. You get better the more you play together. Very difficult task for the Packers to get better as the year goes on with so many players in, out, back in, out again. That along with some not getting to see the field at all.
IMO there was no way for the defense to start out the season in 2013 and then come together, grow as group, and get better as the season went on. Not with all the guys that missed significant amount of time coupled with a few instances where players were last minute scratces and another player or two getting banged up any given game.
Too much shuffling. Too much compensating. I say compensating because when your putting backups in they are more limited in what they can do. That's why they are backups and not starters.
You want better results? Get the defense out there, together, building continuity. Building trust in one another. That builds confidence. That builds attitude.
By midway through the 1st quarter of the 49'rs game the D lost Shields and Neal and were already without Jolly, Mathews, Perry, B. Jones, etc. Mulamba is out there on one leg cause they had nobody left. They were OUT. How the F they stayed in that game is actually amazing.
Just stay REASONABLY healthy. All I ask. Everything else will take care of itself.
"The train is leaving the station."
nerdmann
11 years ago

Our first rounder was sitting on the bench.

Originally Posted by: beast 



If you're talking about 2012, Perry was starting until he was injured.

If you're talking about 2013, then you might have to remember rookies have to adjust to the NFL. In fact none of Thompson 1st pick started as rookies EXCEPT the LBers and Bulaga... and Bulaga was a backup until an injury got him into the starting lineup.

If you watch the rookies, you'll notice it normally takes them a bit of time to adjust to playing in the NFL... other than maybe LBers and RBs which seem to be able to adjust more easily (normally).


Also some teams seem to try to draft players that are more ready to go right off the bat... but those guys either go VERY high in the draft or have a lower potential to devolop. The Packers seem to draft guys with high potential high in the draft and so if the devolop them they become a lot better player even if they're not able to play right away. Worked out pretty well with a number of Packers players... devolop them with time, not throw them in right away... especially if they DON'T EARN playing time... they got to earn it, by devoloping.




Don't tell me we didn't have guys available, because we did.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (19h) : Their season did kind of start there, so 🤷
dfosterf (19-Jul) : Eagles put an engraved Brazil flag on their super bowl rings
Zero2Cool (18-Jul) : Benton unsigned no more
Zero2Cool (17-Jul) : That's good analysis, yes you are getting old. It'd a blessing!
dfosterf (14-Jul) : *analysis* gettin' old
dfosterf (14-Jul) : One of the best analyisis I"ve ever watched at this time of an offseason
dfosterf (14-Jul) : Andy Herman interviewed Warren Sharp on his Pack a day podcast
packerfanoutwest (10-Jul) : Us Padres fans love it....But it'll be a Dodgers/Yankees World Series
Zero2Cool (9-Jul) : Brewers sweep Dodgers. Awesome
Mucky Tundra (6-Jul) : And James Flanigan is the grandson of Packers Super Bowl winner Jim Flanigan Sr.
Mucky Tundra (6-Jul) : Jerome Bettis and Jim Flanigans sons as well!
Zero2Cool (6-Jul) : Thomas Davis Jr is OLB, not WR. Oops.
Zero2Cool (6-Jul) : Larry Fitzgeral and Thomas Davis sons too. WR's as well.
Mucky Tundra (5-Jul) : Kaydon Finley, son of Jermichael Finley, commits to Notre Dame
dfosterf (3-Jul) : Make sure to send my props to him! A plus move!
Zero2Cool (3-Jul) : My cousin, yes.
dfosterf (3-Jul) : That was your brother the GB press gazette referenced with the red cross draft props thing, yes?
Zero2Cool (2-Jul) : Packers gonna unveil new throwback helmet in few weeks.
Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : I know it's Kleiman but this stuff writes itself
Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : "Make sure she signs the NDA before asking for a Happy Ending!"
Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : @NFL_DovKleiman Powerful: Deshaun Watson is taking Shedeur Sanders 'under his wing' as a mentor to the Browns QBs
Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Dolphins get (back) Minkah Fitzpatrick in trade
Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Steelers land Jalen Ramsey via Trade
dfosterf (26-Jun) : I think it would be great to have someone like Tom Grossi or Andy Herman on the Board of Directors so he/they could inform us
dfosterf (26-Jun) : Fair enough, WPR. Thing is, I have been a long time advocate to at least have some inkling of the dynamics within the board.
wpr (26-Jun) : 1st world owners/stockholders problems dfosterf.
Martha Careful (25-Jun) : I would have otherwise admirably served
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Also, no more provision for a write-in candidate, so Martha is off the table at least for this year
dfosterf (25-Jun) : You do have to interpret the boring fine print, but all stockholders all see he is on the ballot
dfosterf (25-Jun) : It also says he is subject to another ballot in 2028. I recall nothing of this nature with Murphy
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy is on my ballot subject to me penciling him in as a no.
dfosterf (25-Jun) : I thought it used to be we voted for the whatever they called the 45, and then they voted for the seven, and then they voted for Mark Murphy
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Because I was too lazy to change my address, I haven't voted fot years until this year
dfosterf (25-Jun) : of the folks that run this team. I do not recall Mark Murphy being subject to our vote.
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy yay or nay is on the pre-approved ballot that we always approve because we are uninformed and lazy, along with all the rest
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Weird question. Very esoteric. For stockholders. Also lengthy. Sorry. Offseason.
Zero2Cool (25-Jun) : Maybe wicked wind chill made it worse?
Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : And then he signs with Cleveland in the offseason
Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : @SharpFootball WR Diontae Johnson just admitted he refused to enter a game in 41° weather last year in Baltimore because he felt “ice cold”
Zero2Cool (24-Jun) : Yawn. Rodgers says he is "pretty sure" this be final season.
Zero2Cool (23-Jun) : PFT claims Packers are having extension talks with Zach Tom, Quay Walker.
Mucky Tundra (20-Jun) : GB-Minnesota 2004 Wild Card game popped up on my YouTube page....UGH
beast (20-Jun) : Hmm 🤔 re-signing Walker before Tom? Sounds highly questionable to me.
Mucky Tundra (19-Jun) : One person on Twitter=cannon law
Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Well, to ONE person on Tweeter
Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : According to Tweeter
Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Packers are working on extension for LT Walker they hope to have done before camp
dfosterf (18-Jun) : E4B landed at Andrews last night
dfosterf (18-Jun) : 101 in a 60
dfosterf (18-Jun) : FAFO
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
11h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

11h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

11h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

18-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

15-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

14-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

10-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

10-Jul / Around The NFL / Zero2Cool

6-Jul / Random Babble / Martha Careful

4-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

2-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

2-Jul / Fantasy Sports Talk / dfosterf

1-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

29-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

25-Jun / Around The NFL / Martha Careful

Headlines