DarkaneRules
10 years ago
The guy has been trained all over the line. He's not the best pass protector, but he is pretty solid in the run game. Curious if how close he is to hitting his ceiling. In any case, he is a lock.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
Wade
  • Wade
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10 years ago
I love this time of year. Debates about OL "potential".

I like Barclay ... as a backup.
I like Bahktiari ... as a backup.
I like Bulaga .. as a backup.
Even though the last two are (probably) going to be starters, I think all three have shown enough to be considered ... quality backups. I've seen enough of all three that I believe their "potential" isn't enough to make them to be the quality of starter I want. Unless you will be satisfied with Daryn Colledge level play, you should want more than any of these three.

IMO.

Sherrod, Tretter, Linsley -- until the pads come on and the game starts, they still have the possibility of being starters, but only the possibility.

Best case scenario given the current roster is going to be Sherrod beating out Barclay, Sitton the stud staying healthy, Tretter showing himself better than Dietrich-Smith, Lang being at his serviceable best, and Bulaga being at his serviceable best.

Another year of 40+ sacks.

Ooh-rah.

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Zero2Cool
10 years ago

Another year of 40+ sacks.

Ooh-rah.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



And that is solely because Aaron Rodgers does not know when to throw it away. He holds the ball far too long. The 3 second drill they practiced last year was completely disregarded by him. You can't expect an OL to hold the fort for 5+ seconds. You have 3 seconds, you throw the ball or toss it out of bounds.
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nerdmann
10 years ago

I love this time of year. Debates about OL "potential".

I like Barclay ... as a backup.
I like Bahktiari ... as a backup.
I like Bulaga .. as a backup.
Even though the last two are (probably) going to be starters, I think all three have shown enough to be considered ... quality backups. I've seen enough of all three that I believe their "potential" isn't enough to make them to be the quality of starter I want. Unless you will be satisfied with Daryn Colledge level play, you should want more than any of these three.

IMO.

Sherrod, Tretter, Linsley -- until the pads come on and the game starts, they still have the possibility of being starters, but only the possibility.

Best case scenario given the current roster is going to be Sherrod beating out Barclay, Sitton the stud staying healthy, Tretter showing himself better than Dietrich-Smith, Lang being at his serviceable best, and Bulaga being at his serviceable best.

Another year of 40+ sacks.

Ooh-rah.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



What's wrong with Bulaga, other than the occasional season ending injury?
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
steveishere
10 years ago

What's wrong with Bulaga, other than the occasional season ending injury?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



He played badly in a game that one time therefore he's not very good.
Dexter_Sinister
10 years ago

He played badly in a game that one time therefore he's not very good.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Part of one game.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
Dexter_Sinister
10 years ago

And that is solely because Aaron Rodgers does not know when to throw it away. He holds the ball far too long. The 3 second drill they practiced last year was completely disregarded by him. You can't expect an OL to hold the fort for 5+ seconds. You have 3 seconds, you throw the ball or toss it out of bounds.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



There is a trade off. If you would have him throw the ball away, he wouldn't extend as many plays or scramble for big gains. The yards he picks up holding the ball too long are much more than the sack yards lost. That isn't even including the passes after he evades tacklers.

Take your pick. Less or more. Less sacks, less scrambles and less extended plays or more sacks, more scrambles and more extended plays.

If you want him to throw it away because he will get hit and injured, he would have to throw it away even earlier to avoide contact.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
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