Talk of "no speed" regarding Richard Rodgers is laughable in comparing him to Jermichael Finley.

Finley's measured 40 time at the Combine: 4.82
Rodgers' measured 40 time at the Combine: 4.87

Richard Rodgers has far better hands, was touted as an exceptional cut blocker pre-draft, has nearly identical size to Finley, and is a proven route runner.

Have people forgotten Finley's desire to freelance on routes? How many times were he and Aaron Rodgers not on the same page? All the BS with special Saturday night meetings prior to game day...

I agree with you that the staff probably grew very tired of the high drop rates. DD was also on par with Finley for drops.

After seeing Richard Rodgers working on field even in OTAs setting, it is clear that he has the potential to be very, very good. He could easily blow away Finley as a threat to opposing defenses from my own perspective. He won't be a veiled threat either, as he will deliver by being in the right position in a route and finishing plays. Just wait till you see him turn the ball upfield after the catch. Trust me, you'll love it.

Originally Posted by: play2win 

It isn't laughable at all...you're laughing over a .5 second difference when it's already north of 4.8. I had to put that in there because you are comparing their combine times where Finley ran very poorly. see this from bleacherreport.com:

Several athletes have disappointed when running the 40-yard dash, with their on-field speed not showing on the track. Jermichael Finley, one of the NFL's fastest and most dynamic tight ends, ran just a 4.82 at the 2008 combine.

Rodgers runs like a DE not a TE. Let's hope his combine time was similar to Finley's situation but it sure doesn't sound like it. Finley ran high 4.6 in the hand time which I don't trust. Rodgers ran 4.8 and 4.9 during his pro day. Comparing Finley and Rodgers by only using their combine times paints an incomplete and inaccurate picture of their true speed. Plus, it neglects a .5 second differential that pushes close to 4.9 on digital timing. Show me a big time TE who ran 4.9.

The irony is this is Jermichael Finley's hands were touted as "natural" coming out of Texas. He looked anything but natural over the last couple of years in Green Bay. Rodgers gets the same type of love when it comes to hands but his speed is noted as "pedestrian" and "average". I know some have already gone on record as saying Rodgers is better than Finley but the guy can't run.

I'm hopeful Rodgers is, at least, a little faster than how he timed because when you run 4.9 at a pro day there is no other thing to say about it other than it's brutal. Chris Borland could keep up with this guy.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Lol who cares if he looks good at actual football lets worry about what he timed running in a straight line. 40 yard dash times are really extremely overrated. Any time I've actually watched him play I never got the impression he looked slow so I don't really care if he ran a 6.0 40 yards dash. His success or failure as a TE is going to come if he can learn to run smooth routes, have soft hands, and block not whether he could have gotten another .1 second on his 40 yard dash time in shorts and a t-shirt.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 

I'm not sure why you mock a person's 40 time? Yes, there are examples of guys in the NFL who have proven to be excellent players despite a poor 40 time. However, when it comes to drafting a player 40 time is VERY important. It is one of the main variables scouts look at.

If he ran 4.7 then i wouldn't be so worried even though 4.7 isn't fast... he ran 4.94 at his pro day for one of his times. You can't tell me that isn't a reason for concern, or are you? You did say you didn't care if he ran 6.0, so I guess you really don't think it matters. I will completely disagree with you on that. One bad 40 time...not a problem...3 bad 40's...that's a bad trend unless he was injured.

Jarrett Boykin ran 4.74... horrible for a WR. I did find where he ran 4.57 and 4.62. Where was Boykin drafted? Right, he wasn't. Why? He couldn't run. Rodgers isn't really dissimilar and why he was a shocker as a 3rd rounder. Poor speed.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

I'm not sure why you mock a person's 40 time? Yes, there are examples of guys in the NFL who have proven to be excellent players despite a poor 40 time. However, when it comes to drafting a player 40 time is VERY important. It is one of the main variables scouts look at.

If he ran 4.7 then i wouldn't be so worried even though 4.7 isn't fast... he ran 4.94 at his pro day for one of his times. You can't tell me that isn't a reason for concern, or are you? You did say you didn't care if he ran 6.0, so I guess you really don't think it matters. I will completely disagree with you on that. One bad 40 time...not a problem...3 bad 40's...that's a bad trend unless he was injured.

Jarrett Boykin ran 4.74... horrible for a WR. I did find where he ran 4.57 and 4.62. Where was Boykin drafted? Right, he wasn't. Why? He couldn't run. Rodgers isn't really dissimilar and why he was a shocker as a 3rd rounder. Poor speed.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

And you decide to use Boykin as an example to try to support your argument?

Gee. I guess he sucks at the NFL level. Wow.

Never mind Richard Rodgers ran his 40 weighing a good 25lbs more than Finley...

Originally Posted by: play2win 

Will Rodgers (no pun) alter defenses like Finley. I doubt it. No speed.