Zero2Cool
10 years ago

As I understood it, kids were then turning around and selling the autographed cards.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



While I think kids should be given the benefit of the doubt, it is true that some parents would have their kids obtain the autographs for them to sell.

Personally, I would rather take the chance of making some kids day than worry about someone making a buck off my ink. The impression you have the opportunity to make on someone that young is priceless. The amount of money someone could make off the ink, very limited.
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Pack93z
10 years ago
Off the top of my head... Tim Lewis, John Brockington, Sterling Sharpe.

Lynn Dickey is one that I would love to see the numbers he may have put up if he could stay healthy.. albeit an ounce of mobility might have been nice as well.

Another would be Justin Harrell.. he at times looked dominate in college.. just could stay healthy at all.

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sschind
10 years ago

While I think kids should be given the benefit of the doubt, it is true that some parents would have their kids obtain the autographs for them to sell.

Personally, I would rather take the chance of making some kids day than worry about someone making a buck off my ink. The impression you have the opportunity to make on someone that young is priceless. The amount of money someone could make off the ink, very limited.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Lots of athletes do not like to sign for this reason. Others will insist on personalizing the authograph ie: to Johnny, my #1 fan because personalized autographs generally are not as desirable to autograph collectors. I agree with zero. I would rather sign 100 autos destined for ebay rather than miss 1 kid who truly wanted one for himself. yes, many parents will have their kids get autos to resell and many adults will pay kids to get things signed but that is the nature of the beast. If you are popular people will want your autograph.

One way to diminish this is not to sign fewer items but to sign more. Get 100,000 of your cards, sign them and have someone sell them them on ebay for enough to cover shipping or simply give them away. Flood the market with them. If a card company wants you to sign cards for a product sign a ton of them. The more signatures that are out there the less they will be worth.

Another way is to start a rumor that someone forged many thousands of your signatures on items that can be purchased through places like ebay. Yeah, its dishonest but that will ensure that the only way for people to know for sure your signature is real is to get it in person.

Personally I have never seen the appeal of an autograph, especially one purchased from a second hand source like those on trading cards. The only way I would consider an autograph for myself is if I saw the person at a game or a function not specifically set up to provide autographs like if you saw the person out on the town (even though approaching them then may be rude and presumptuous) I remember many years ago when Favre hurt his foot and during the bye week he was signing at a Scheels sporting goods store in Eau Claire. People were lined up from one end of the mall to the other and half way back at 9:00 in the morning and the signing wasn't set to start until 10 or maybe even 11. I can not think of a single person that I would wait in line for more that maybe 10 minutes to get an autograph from unless I was getting the autograph for a gift for someone. I might wait an hour or so to get someone like Brian Urlacher to sign an item for my nephew (Urlacher was his favorite player) but for myself, no way. It just means nothing to me.

If I were famous I'd like to think that I would sign sign sign, anything and everything that came my way as long as the request was within reason (not being rude or invasive or things like that)

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DakotaT
10 years ago

Lots of athletes do not like to sign for this reason. Others will insist on personalizing the authograph ie: to Johnny, my #1 fan because personalized autographs generally are not as desirable to autograph collectors. I agree with zero. I would rather sign 100 autos destined for ebay rather than miss 1 kid who truly wanted one for himself. yes, many parents will have their kids get autos to resell and many adults will pay kids to get things signed but that is the nature of the beast. If you are popular people will want your autograph.

One way to diminish this is not to sign fewer items but to sign more. Get 100,000 of your cards, sign them and have someone sell them them on ebay for enough to cover shipping or simply give them away. Flood the market with them. If a card company wants you to sign cards for a product sign a ton of them. The more signatures that are out there the less they will be worth.

Another way is to start a rumor that someone forged many thousands of your signatures on items that can be purchased through places like ebay. Yeah, its dishonest but that will ensure that the only way for people to know for sure your signature is real is to get it in person.

Personally I have never seen the appeal of an autograph, especially one purchased from a second hand source like those on trading cards. The only way I would consider an autograph for myself is if I saw the person at a game or a function not specifically set up to provide autographs like if you saw the person out on the town (even though approaching them then may be rude and presumptuous) I remember many years ago when Favre hurt his foot and during the bye week he was signing at a Scheels sporting goods store in Eau Claire. People were lined up from one end of the mall to the other and half way back at 9:00 in the morning and the signing wasn't set to start until 10 or maybe even 11. I can not think of a single person that I would wait in line for more that maybe 10 minutes to get an autograph from unless I was getting the autograph for a gift for someone. I might wait an hour or so to get someone like Brian Urlacher to sign an item for my nephew (Urlacher was his favorite player) but for myself, no way. It just means nothing to me.

If I were famous I'd like to think that I would sign sign sign, anything and everything that came my way as long as the request was within reason (not being rude or invasive or things like that)

Originally Posted by: sschind 



I've never been in "awe" of anybody. Just not how I roll. The great Brett Favre did a lot of awesome things on the football field, but he has not conducted himself with the kind of class Bart Starr did, not even close. Would I wait in line for Brett's autograph: hell to the no!
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DoddPower
10 years ago
Autographs have never meant much to me, either. When I was young, my Dad and I spoke with John Elway for awhile and got his autograph on his rookie card. He's a Bronco's fan and was excited. I guess it was cool to meet him. He was actually surprisingly nice, despite what you hear. Honestly, snapping my photo with a celebrity probably means as much as the autograph. That would probably lock the memory in even better than some scribble on cardboard. But even that doesn't mean much to me. They are just people. There a few individuals that I would like to meet, shake their hand, and talk to for a minute, but the group is very, very small. It's mostly limited to my musical idols. For the most part, I just don't care. I would love to meet any President or prominent world leader, regardless of my opinion of them just because of their place in society and to help remind me that they are human just like the rest of us. It's almost easy to forget that certain celebrities are actually real due to their larger than life portrayal. But for most celebrities, I wouldn't even know what the hell to say or do anyway, so I guess that's where the autographs come into play. At least it's a script to follow that everyone is used to.
uffda udfa
10 years ago
The awe and wonder is for the young. I think the biggest thrill I ever had was shaking Wayne Gretzky's hand when he was a member of the Kings after a North Stars game at Met Center. That was twenty some odd years ago. I was going to ask for an autograph but I thought shaking his hand would be "cooler". He shook it and never said a word the entire time.

My life took me in directions where I met or spoke with countless numbers of athletes and celebrities. What starts out as awe and wonder loses it's luster very quickly. A lot of these people are people you really wouldn't want to meet anyway.

The last autograph I recall getting was from Bill Murray. I have only 3 autographs from all my experiences. Bill Murray, Don King (signed a dollar bill) and Pete Rose. I had multiple baseballs signed by Pete, but I gave all of them away save for one, and I may give that one away someday, too.

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OlHoss1884
10 years ago
Let
s nnot confuse character with talent, thogh. When I was a kid, Jose Cardinel was one of my favorites. Great guy, class clown and totally fan friendly. But he batted about .235.

Sterling Sharoe always had a reputation as a dick, but I am ok with that as long as he's not a clubhouse cancer because he could play.

I have little doubt some of these guys are jerks...I bet I would have nothing to say to a Colt Lyerla, but if someone can keep out of trouble, can keep frombeing disruptive to the team and can play a little football, let's see him play!

Think about Randy Moss. Some wanted badly to bring him here but I hated him from his college days and even as a pro tried to run over a meter maid. yet no question a lot of people still thought to bring him here.

Brett Favre turned disruptive Prima Donna at the end of his tenure here so I was glad to see him go but I bet he didn't turn that way over night. And I for one was glad that, unlike the Bears, Vikings and Lions, I didn't have to worry about who my QB was for like 20 years.
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uffda udfa
10 years ago

Let
s nnot confuse character with talent, thogh. When I was a kid, Jose Cardinel was one of my favorites. Great guy, class clown and totally fan friendly. But he batted about .235.

Sterling Sharoe always had a reputation as a dick, but I am ok with that as long as he's not a clubhouse cancer because he could play.

I have little doubt some of these guys are jerks...I bet I would have nothing to say to a Colt Lyerla, but if someone can keep out of trouble, can keep frombeing disruptive to the team and can play a little football, let's see him play!

Think about Randy Moss. Some wanted badly to bring him here but I hated him from his college days and even as a pro tried to run over a meter maid. yet no question a lot of people still thought to bring him here.

Brett Favre turned disruptive Prima Donna at the end of his tenure here so I was glad to see him go but I bet he didn't turn that way over night. And I for one was glad that, unlike the Bears, Vikings and Lions, I didn't have to worry about who my QB was for like 20 years.

Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 



Sharpe wasn't well liked in the Packers locker room if you believe a book that was written. Supposedly, he was a nightmare in the huddle always complaining he needed the ball. From what I read, the players were happy he was out of there and felt they were a much better "team" without Sterling...and they were.
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nerdmann
10 years ago

Let
s nnot confuse character with talent, thogh. When I was a kid, Jose Cardinel was one of my favorites. Great guy, class clown and totally fan friendly. But he batted about .235.

Sterling Sharoe always had a reputation as a dick, but I am ok with that as long as he's not a clubhouse cancer because he could play.

I have little doubt some of these guys are jerks...I bet I would have nothing to say to a Colt Lyerla, but if someone can keep out of trouble, can keep frombeing disruptive to the team and can play a little football, let's see him play!

Think about Randy Moss. Some wanted badly to bring him here but I hated him from his college days and even as a pro tried to run over a meter maid. yet no question a lot of people still thought to bring him here.

Brett Favre turned disruptive Prima Donna at the end of his tenure here so I was glad to see him go but I bet he didn't turn that way over night. And I for one was glad that, unlike the Bears, Vikings and Lions, I didn't have to worry about who my QB was for like 20 years.

Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 



Moss had a formative incident in his youth that made him what he was.
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sschind
10 years ago

Moss had a formative incident in his youth that made him what he was.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 




I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or not (I know nothing of Randy Moss' youth) but I am sure lots of people have incidences in their youth that if not handled properly can turn them into jerks. They don't all turn into jerks. Being a jerk is as much about choosing to be a jerk as it is about your experiences.
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