nerdmann
10 years ago

looks like mckenzie isnt taking the ted approach, thats why they will always be in the cellar !!

Originally Posted by: nyrpack 



Ted signed plenty of FAs, back when the cupboards were bare. Koren Robinson, Mark Roman, Marquand Manual, etc.

Let McKenzie stock up on good players and win a SB. Then see how much he spends.
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beast
10 years ago

Solid against the run. Dunno why they didn't use him more last year.

Oh yeah, Capers.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Yeah it's Capers fault that all the other healthy DL out played him and earned their way past him...

Wilson was solid paying two gap, but was under average at everything else.

If Worthy was healthy at the start of the season, Wilson might not of even made the team last year.

And Boyd came in and out played him as a rookie.
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nerdmann
10 years ago

Yeah it's Capers fault that all the other healthy DL out played him and earned their way past him...

Wilson was solid paying two gap, but was under average at everything else.

If Worthy was healthy at the start of the season, Wilson might not of even made the team last year.

And Boyd came in and out played him as a rookie.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Boyd was a NT.
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beast
10 years ago

Boyd was a NT.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Boyd was used at NT, DT and DE, he wasn't just a NT. And he out played Wilson to get on the field.


From what I heard of Wilson sounds like he's a GREAT MAN! But he got out played last year by the other guys stepping up and he didn't.

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Mucky Tundra
10 years ago
Considering that he was a 7th rounder, I'd say the Packers squeezed all they could out of him and then found something better. Best of luck to him.

As far as the Raiders signing a ton of Packers FA-they're not exactly breaking the bank signing him and Jones. I think this is more McKenzie bringing in vets so he can tell his young guys/draft picks "These guys won a Super Bowl and come from a background where winning is an expected thing. They know what it takes to win and the dedication it takes. Emulate them."
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Zero2Cool
10 years ago
I've heard a few times that C.J. Wilson is good against the run. Compared to other players at the same position in the same defensive scheme, he is ranked 50th against the run. I think marginal player is overstating his value. Mike Daniels and Jerel Worthy both ranked much higher. (Worthy had just 12 snaps.)
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DakotaT
10 years ago

I've heard a few times that C.J. Wilson is good against the run. Compared to other players at the same position in the same defensive scheme, he is ranked 50th against the run. I think marginal player is overstating his value. Mike Daniels and Jerel Worthy both ranked much higher. (Worthy had just 12 snaps.)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I like Worthy, Daniels, and Boyd. I just wish we could find a better nose tackle than Raji. I believe Raji to be lazy and stupid. The jury is still out on Datone Jones and what Peppers will bring us. But CJ Wilson, good riddance.
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steveishere
10 years ago

I've heard a few times that C.J. Wilson is good against the run. Compared to other players at the same position in the same defensive scheme, he is ranked 50th against the run. I think marginal player is overstating his value. Mike Daniels and Jerel Worthy both ranked much higher. (Worthy had just 12 snaps.)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



If that's PFF rankings he was ranked 10th in 2012. He got injured last year and his play and snaps suffered for it.
Zero2Cool
10 years ago

If that's PFF rankings he was ranked 10th in 2012. He got injured last year and his play and snaps suffered for it.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



That is quite true and for comparison sake, B.J. Raji was ranked 6th.
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DoddPower
10 years ago

I like Worthy, Daniels, and Boyd. I just wish we could find a better nose tackle than Raji. I believe Raji to be lazy and stupid. The jury is still out on Datone Jones and what Peppers will bring us. But CJ Wilson, good riddance.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I don't have any problem with the guy, but he is the definition of a replaceable player, imo.
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bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
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