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10 years ago

GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Micah Hyde played only a part-time role last season. Casey Hayward played virtually no role at all.

Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy expects that to be different this season.

That could be the next step toward fixing the problems that hampered the secondary last season.

As a rookie, Hyde played 39.4 percent of the defensive snaps, and almost all of it came as either the nickel or dime defensive back covering or blitzing from the slot.

Rob Demovsky  wrote:



they need to come up big this year.
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musccy
10 years ago

they need to come up big this year.

Originally Posted by: wpr 




As we know with Ted's draft and develop, its success is contingent upon 2nd-4th year players developing into starters to replace the Jennings, Jenkins, Jones, Woodsons, and Drivers that leave or age.

Add Worthy, Perry, D. Jones to this same list.
luigis
10 years ago
I'm praying to be wrong about Hayward, it would be great if he is as good as it looked in his first season.

My feeling is that he was just lucky, last season he played only a few games but I saw a player afraid of contact and frequently looking at the backfield getting late to most plays. I also have the crazy idea that his chemistry with the rest of the team is bad.

One interesting question is: what about House? House played -I think- to his full ability and a little beyond when asked, he covered receivers that other teams struggled to cover and was quite good at that. For some reason there's a lot of hope in Hyde and Hayward but not in House. Strange...


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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
Hayward may have been tentative last season - I attribute that to lingering effects the hamstring and fear going all out would reinjure it. The previous season, he seemed to have a nose for the ball, and was good in coverage - I don't much remember how he did against the run.

I saw in Hyde what somebody said about House: that he was maxing out his ability. He did damn good for a 3rd (?) round rookie. He might even be the solution at Safety. I'd be happier with a first round pick at Safety, though.

House played as well or better than the second best Corner on a lot of teams, and he was our #3 or 4 or even 5 if you count Hayward.

You can never have too many good Corners. I can't believe the skill set is that different than for Safety. I'd like to see more cross-training between the two positions.
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nerdmann
10 years ago
House got beat at times, but he also made some huge plays. He's tough, but he's a little stiff.

As for Hayward, the sky's the limit, if he can ever get back on the field.
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joemailman
10 years ago
Hayward is not a fluke if he's healthy. He's a really good instinctive player. Hyde has a chance at safety. Not sure how much upside he has. He strikes me as the kind of guy who will at least be where he's supposed to be which would be a big improvement over M.D. Jennings.
Laser Gunns
10 years ago
Pass rush would really help these guys shine.

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DoddPower
10 years ago

Hayward is not a fluke if he's healthy. He's a really good instinctive player. Hyde has a chance at safety. Not sure how much upside he has. He strikes me as the kind of guy who will at least be where he's supposed to be which would be a big improvement over M.D. Jennings.

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Plus, Hyde he has some pretty good pass rushing/blitzing ability, which is one thing Dom Capers seems to utilize quite well.
DarkaneRules
10 years ago
Hyde has so much upside. Love that guy. Hope Hayward has a healthy season. He is the real deal.
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Yerko
10 years ago
I honestly think Hyde can be the answer at the safety position. He played both corner and safety at Iowa in 2011 and did well at both positions. He's a sound player and makes good, solid decisions.

Not to mention, he can tackle.
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