walleye
16 years ago
i found more in the greenbay gazette more details

McCarthy: Packers 'definitely' right to choose Rodgers
We're live from coach Mike McCarthy's postseason media conference, which should begin shortly. Refresh for the latest.

UPDATE: Probably the most pointed thing McCarthy said in roughly 34 minutes with reporters was saying the Packers "definitely made the right move" with Aaron Rodgers instead of Brett Favre at quarterback. In the past, both McCarthy and GM Ted Thompson have shied away from responding to that question. McCarthy did not mention Favre by name.

* Here we go.

* Final injuries: LB Nick Barnett (knee) doing very well with rehab, S Atari Bigby (ankle surgery) doing "very well" and rehabbing in Miami, T Breno Giacomini (ankle) 3-4 weeks away, FB Korey Hall (knee sprain) should be fine in a couple of weeks, DT Justin Harrell (lower back) redoing the studies and will continue to evaluate, DE Kenny Pettway (ACL surgery) doing well with rehab, T Mark Tauscher (torn ACL) probably will have surgery in 10 to 14 days, C Scott Wells will have postseason shoulder surgery, T Chad Clifton will have a couple of surgeries.

* Why so long for Tauscher's surgery? Doing some prehab to strengthen before go in.

* What doing to Clifton? Cleaning out procedure in at least one knee, probably both.

* On season: "Well, 6-10. My name's on the front door. It's not what we were looking for. It's not what we prepared for. I'm not satisfied, and it all starts from the top down. It's evaluation time right now, I had the opportunity to meet with the players, and we'll look at every aspect of our program."

* When evaluate assistants? Coordinators today, assistant coaches next week.

* Rule out changes to coaching staff? "I'm really at the beginning of it. Those are all the things that we'll look at."

* Hesitation to make changes? "You look at everything." Have three years together. Will look at all the factors, evaluate, then set plan for next year.

* Player exit interviews: Veterans on Monday, rookies and young guys on Tuesday. They can ask any question. "It's a very open dialogue. ... I thought it was very healthy. It always is." One of most informative times of year because they can speak and be heard.

* What did players think went wrong? Inability to win close games was common. If 45 players speak on one side of an issue, it probably has some validity to it.

* 45 agree on anything? On the record and the disappointment, but "they believe in the way" the program operates. Thought rookies showed good maturity.

* On Charles Woodson's suggestions that need more veterans on defense: "I think that's a convenient opinion. I talked to Charles and all the other veterans about a number of different things. There's not just one thing we need to do, and we'll look at all those things. So, I guess that everybody has a right to their opinion. I think it's convenient to attack the youth of our team. So, I'm fine with our football team. I like our football team."

* Already know what going to do, and just not telling the media? "I don't want to hurt your feelings -- this isn't about you, or the media. It's about doing the things in the best interest of the Green Bay Packers, and it's appropriate, it's right and it's the way that I'm going to do it. I'm going to go through the evaluation process, and I am going to set the course and the path for success, and that's my plan."

* So, mind not made up on staff? "Absolutely not. I'm not going to sit here and hold back decisions. Once I make up my mind, then I'll act accordingly."

* Need to do much personnel-wise for next year, or have pieces that need to develop? "I don't look at a football team (as) you're just playing the chess board and you add a couple pieces and then you're a paper champion. It's a totally different mind-set from my chair." Generally, with any team, there is a 20 percent change in personnel before spring (because of draft, free agency, etc.). Goal is to develop the other 80 percent in the coming months. "I think it's convenient to say we need this or we need that. That may be true. There may be a piece here that we agree or we disagree on. But the focus is on the whole, and I know 80 percent of those players will be here March 16, and that's the group we're going to develop, and we're going to do a damn good job of it."

* Like defensive scheme enough that keeping for 2009, regardless who's coordinating? "All of our schemes are under evaluation right now. That's what you do right now. That's what this time's for. We'll look at the run defense. We'll look at all those things. We'll look at the base concepts in normal (down and distance) all the way through." No different when look at offense and special teams.

* Zone-blocking scheme re-evaluated, too? "We kind of lump things, and we don't just run zone-blocking schemes. It's a starting point for us. We're doing more variations of that than we did Year 1, and we'll evaluate that, and we'll look to continue to try to improve that, and we'll tailor it to our players, because at the end of the day, it's really about the players." Will spend next 5 to 6 weeks, up until scouting combine, developing scheme and will have ready in March when players return.

* Really convenient, since had loss of leadership? "We talked a lot ... and it was interesting. I think we have exceptional leadership by example, and that was confirmed." Have vocal leader? Maybe not. Is that why winning or losing? "Those are all convenient things."

* Isn't loss of leadership tangible, with departures of Favre and Rob Davis? Is that really convenient? "We talked a lot about leadership, both with the veterans the young guys, and it was interesting. I think we have exceptional leadership by example. That was confirmed. Now, do we have the guy that's out there screaming and yelling and so forth? Maybe we don't. Is that why you're winning games or why you're not winning games? Those are all convenient things, and I think those are things you've got to watch because when you lose, everything's wrong. I stood up here last year, and everything was right, and I knew it wasn't all right last year. ... That's why you take the time to go through all the evaluations, you take the time to talk to everybody."

* But weren't the losses of those players tangible? "I don't disagree with what you're saying, but I think there's a lot more to it than that. I don't think it's, 'Let's fix the leadership,' and then everything else is OK. I don't think that's the case." Davis still is part of program. "I think we have excellent leadership that we've got to do a better job of developing in our locker room, and I think that was (the) consensus."

* See being youngest team in league for fourth straight year? "That's not on my statistic board when we set goals for the year. I think we'd be hard-pressed to be the youngest team in the league again next year." Most important aspect of team is experience level, which is increasing.

* Injuries an excuse? "No, because it's part of the game. I think injuries play a big part in potential success in our league. It definitely makes you go different directions ... but to me, that's all part of the landscape of the National Football League. It's all part of the chess match or the journey through an NFL season. So, it's no excuse. You can make a case we probably didn't overcome our injuries as well as we should have."

* Surprised didn't stem tide during losing streak? Important to look inside games and see how lost them. Will take a "very long" look at the fourth quarter. Both sides of the ball, plus special teams, didn't do well -- 2-minute offense, kickoff coverage, etc. Will apply to practice structure as go forward.

* Themes of what went wrong in close games? "A lot of it is execution, but we'll look at everything." Everyone will be evaluated.

* Experience factor in? Now have more experience being in those situations. "In losing, you can't lose the lesson." "We had players who had very good seasons who need to be better. ... I need to coach better. We need to do a better job all the way though. ... You're either improving or you're going backwards, and you're we took some steps backwards this season."

* Confident team made right decision at quarterback? "Yes, I think we definitely made the right move at the quarterback position. I was pleased with the productivity from the quarterback position. From an individual standpoint, I think Aaron Rodgers played at a very steady, steady level, which was a high level, based on his statistics. He's given us a baseline, a standard that we will hold him to and the offensive group as we move forward."

* What like most about Rodgers' play? "Well, he held true to the type of quarterback that I felt that he was going to be, as far as his decision-making ability and his ball accuracy. That was something that he showed in his opportunities as a young player in our first couple years here, and he was able to sustain that for 16 games. So, that's what I was most pleased about. ... He was very good outside the pocket, making plays with his feet. I thought he was smart in space. He took a couple hits early in the season that you didn't see later in the season. I thought he learned from his mistakes -- Tampa Bay game, as opposed to as he moved forward. The beauty of Aaron (is) he's young, and he has the opportunity to only improve, but I think he has a good baseline to start from."

* Other positives from season: Excellent foundation. Young team getting more experience, believe in what we're doing. Players go about business right way. "But the bottom line is winning football games."

* On offseason program: Leaning toward keeping minicamp at end. Kickoff weekend might be later.

* On own perfomance: "I didn't get the job done. We're 6-10. ... It starts with me. I didn't do a good enough job."

* Concern with defense: Pass rush and stopping run are primary topics.

* Keep same philosophy and add blitzing element if need to? "There are starting points of every season ... but there really are no absolutes." Think it's convenient to say match defense is the issue.

* Why not more blitzing this year? "They were used." Used frisco, bulldog sets. Defense is different than offense -- have to prepare for what offense does.

* Satisfied with implementation? "That's an ongoing conversation. ... It would be convenient to sit here and say we didn't have enough pass rush (because) we didn't bring enough pressure." Blanket statement.

* Loss of Cullen Jenkins impact run defense? Think he's a force in run defense and also makes impact in pass rush. "You need to overcome injuries regardless of who it is. But Cullen Jenkins is one of the issues ..."

* Torn on Winston Moss' situation? "There's always a personal side to it and a professional side to it." Not right to talk about career advancement and then hope doesn't get job. Spent time with him Tuesday, will again today. Will help get ready for interview. He and Thompson "wish him the best of luck."

* On Ryan Grant's falling numbers: Had long conversation. Thinks going through whole offseason will help. Doesn't think it's all Grant. Doesn't think as coordinated early in season as were late. Battled nagging injuries. "He's a young player, too. I think he has an opportunity" to get better next year.

* On offensive line: "We would like to line up and play the same five guys for 16 games." But have to remember why in this mode -- injuries. Young group, but have lot of experience. Feel very good about level of play from Spitz and Colledge. But want to settle in with five guys.

* Kick at end of Bears game -- what went wrong? "The kick was low. There's three components. ... The specifics of it, frankly, it's irrelevant ... we're 6-10." Not here to say what else went wrong. "It wasn't done right. I expect to kick that field goal every single time, and we didn't get it done."

* Who's your middle linebacker? Haven't gotten to the personnel part of it. Will have meeting with Thompson. Not going to discuss starters in January.

* Young guys that showed development, want to see spike even more? Always biggest jump from Year 1 to Year 2. "I think that rookie class is really going to contribute." (Mentions Finley, Lee, both quarterbacks, Sitton, Giacomini, Thompson.)

* Needed to get more in Year 1? "Those are really situational." Lot of factors. "It's a good group. It's a talented group. ... I think they all have a bright future."

* Take a closer look at Spitz at center? "That's definitely an option."

* Two bad seasons since 1992. Think people in organization feel what this means to go 6-10? "I don't think anybody in the Green Bay Packers organization is flippant about what just happens here. ... I clearly understand the responsibilities. ... It's not acceptable. I'm not satisfied. ... That's the reality of where we are. We need to do a better job."

McCarthy: No staff changes yet
By Greg A. Bedard of the Journal Sentinel
Updated: Dec. 31, 2008 9:43 a.m.


Green Bay - Mike McCarthy has started.

Mark Tauscher has not yet has his knee surgery.
Scott Wells needs shoulder surgery.
Chad Clifton needs a couple of surgeries to clean some things out.
Justin Harrell needs to be re-evaluated.
On possible staff changes: "I'm really at the beginning of it. Those are things that we'll look at."
McCarthy will start meeting with the coordinators.
12/31/2008 09:11 AM


McCarthy will meet with the coordinators today and then move on to the other assistants.

12/31/2008 09:11 AM


As far as his self-evaluation, McCarthy said "Well, 6-10. My name is on the door. It starts with me."

12/31/2008 09:15 AM


On whether this team needs to add free agents on defense: "I think that's convenient to attack the youth of our team."

12/31/2008 09:15 AM


On changes: "I'm going to go through the evaluation process and I'm going to set a course for success."

12/31/2008 09:17 AM


As normally happens, McCarthy expects 20 percent of his roster to change.

12/31/2008 09:18 AM


"All of our schemes are under evaluation right now."

12/31/2008 09:19 AM


We're doing more variations of the zone-blocking scheme than we did in year one...I don't run schemes because so and so won a world championship. We're creative and aggressive.

12/31/2008 09:22 AM


Being the youngest team is not something McCarthy is aiming for, and he doesn't think the Packers will be that again.

12/31/2008 09:22 AM


Injuries were not the reason why the Packers went 6-10. "We didn't overcome them enough."

12/31/2008 09:24 AM


On losing all seven games by four points or less, "You have to look at that. And we will."

12/31/2008 09:26 AM


"Yes, we definitely made the right move at the quarterback position. I was very happy with the productivity at the quarterback position."

12/31/2008 09:29 AM


I didn't get the job done. We were 6-10.

12/31/2008 09:30 AM


Pressure is a concern. That's something Bob and I will talk about.

12/31/2008 09:32 AM


McCarthy acknowledged that he and Sanders talked about more pressure packages last off season.

12/31/2008 09:34 AM


On Winston Moss: "I spent some time with Winston yesterday and we'll talk more tonight."

12/31/2008 09:36 AM


On Ryan Grant : "I had a long conversation with Ryan Grant. It wasn't all on Grant. The running game wasn't in sync."

12/31/2008 09:40 AM


Jason Spitz will get a look at center.

12/31/2008 09:41 AM


We need to do a better job.

12/31/2008 09:43 AM


We'll be back in a few minutes with more.
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Pack93z
16 years ago
I don't think he should be blamed for all of it.. but at least the statement has urgency.. something Ted's lacked.

My confidence in Mike McCarthy has been partially restored with this presser.. acknowledged there are numerous issues, willing to re-evaluate everything and everyone and set the plan moving forward.. bravo.. exactly what we need to do with offseason.

Two bad seasons since 1992. Think people in organization understand what this means to go 6-10? "I don't think anybody in the Green Bay Packers organization is flippant about what just happened here. I'm the head coach. I was given an opportunity to coach a group of men, and we won six games, and I clearly understand the responsibilities and the great organization I'm working at. It's not acceptable. I'm not satisfied. There are reasons why we're here; we need to correct them as we move forward ... and that's the facts. I'm not going to comment on past seasons and so forth. But that's the reality of where we are. We need to do a better job.


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
16 years ago

* Confident team made right decision at quarterback? "Yes, I think we definitely made the right move at the quarterback position. I was pleased with the productivity from the quarterback position. From an individual standpoint, I think Aaron Rodgers played at a very steady, steady level, which was a high level, based on his statistics. He's given us a baseline, a standard that we will hold him to and the offensive group as we move forward."


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Pack93z
16 years ago
I thought that was pretty much a given after his play this season.. we have a solid to great solution at QB for the next 5 plus years barring injury..

* Confident team made right decision at quarterback? "Yes, I think we definitely made the right move at the quarterback position. I was pleased with the productivity from the quarterback position. From an individual standpoint, I think Aaron Rodgers played at a very steady, steady level, which was a high level, based on his statistics. He's given us a baseline, a standard that we will hold him to and the offensive group as we move forward."

"Zero2Cool" wrote:


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
WhiskeySam
16 years ago
More talk from McCarthy. I'll be impressed when he doesn't talk about changing or correcting things but does. I'm a bit puzzled about him thinking they had leaders by example. Whose example were they following when they couldn't hold a lead late?
Nemo me impune lacessit
HoustonMatt
16 years ago

More talk from McCarthy. I'll be impressed when he doesn't talk about changing or correcting things but does. I'm a bit puzzled about him thinking they had leaders by example. Whose example were they following when they couldn't hold a lead late?

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



I'm a bit puzzled why fans, looking from the outside in, even comment on leadership, re: who provides it/does the team need more/etc. How could any of us possibly know a thing about the leadership of this team? Especially to the point where you're debating the coach's remarks on it. It seems pretty preposterous to me.
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Pack93z
16 years ago

More talk from McCarthy. I'll be impressed when he doesn't talk about changing or correcting things but does. I'm a bit puzzled about him thinking they had leaders by example. Whose example were they following when they couldn't hold a lead late?

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



Agreed.. but throughout the season.. he wouldn't even acknowledge they had issues.. this presser coupled with the Linebackers under fire article give me hope that this will be a season of changes and true improvement.

This staff may have remained idle and little changes were installed last offseason because they seemed to work in 07.. even though there were underlying issues.. but 3 years of consistent data and sore spots should give this staff the information they need to correct and weed out the things that don't work properly.. whether that be scheme, staff or players.

But i hear you.. the proof is in the output.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
WhiskeySam
16 years ago

More talk from McCarthy. I'll be impressed when he doesn't talk about changing or correcting things but does. I'm a bit puzzled about him thinking they had leaders by example. Whose example were they following when they couldn't hold a lead late?

"mattresell" wrote:



I'm a bit puzzled why fans, looking from the outside in, even comment on leadership, re: who provides it/does the team need more/etc. How could any of us possibly know a thing about the leadership of this team? Especially to the point where you're debating the coach's remarks on it. It seems pretty preposterous to me.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



We can judge by results. By your logic no one can ever assess any situation they weren't directly a part of.
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Pack93z
16 years ago

It seems pretty preposterous to me.

"mattresell" wrote:



Okay Steven A.. did you have spit flying in that statement. :lol:

All we can see is the vocal on field leadership.. and I think even Mike McCarthy agrees that we don't have that element.

So agreed in point.. but I think a vocal leader on Sunday to fire up the troops is an important element. IE.. see Ray Lewis/ Ed Reed, Bob Sanders, Brian Dawkins, Justin Tuck, etc..
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
HoustonMatt
16 years ago

More talk from McCarthy. I'll be impressed when he doesn't talk about changing or correcting things but does. I'm a bit puzzled about him thinking they had leaders by example. Whose example were they following when they couldn't hold a lead late?

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



I'm a bit puzzled why fans, looking from the outside in, even comment on leadership, re: who provides it/does the team need more/etc. How could any of us possibly know a thing about the leadership of this team? Especially to the point where you're debating the coach's remarks on it. It seems pretty preposterous to me.

"mattresell" wrote:



We can judge by results. By your logic no one can ever assess any situation they weren't directly a part of.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



Assess an intangible situation that you are not a part of accurately? Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying.
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