Packers could be active participants in free agency· Page 5

Pack93z
Select Member

11 years ago

How many of those deals has Ted gambled on with a high dollar value. One comes to mind.. Woodson. It is not his MO... so I would not bank on him taking a risk with a high dollar FA which most people associate FA with.

Do I expect him to be more active.. probably.. but I don't see him chasing the top 10 free agent talent that are going to be above market value.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

play2win
Senior Member

11 years ago

#42

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

Oh, no Pack93z. I'm right with you. I don't expect him to complete a high profile signing either , but I wish he would. Oh, man, do I!!!!

He did it with Woodson. He did it with Pickett. He can do it again, I hope!

BTW, I think "above market value" can be misleading. Market value for proven talent is just that, what teams are willing to spend. The bigger point is finding the value return, the return on investment. If we were to sign a top level FA, maybe we realize that return.

Ted is not Mike Sherman. I trust him here. He knows how important such a move would be.

Pack93z
Select Member

11 years ago

#43

BTW, I think "above market value" can be misleading. Market value for proven talent is just that, what teams are willing to spend. The bigger point is finding the value return, the return on investment. If we were to sign a top level FA, maybe we realize that return.

Originally Posted by: play2win

See, I view it as .... just because one team will pay it, doesn't make it market value.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

11 years ago

#44

See, I view it as .... just because one team will pay it, doesn't make it market value.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

A good analysis I'd like to see is the free agents signed in the first 10 days, how many lived up to their potential? Or to be more fair and easier to analyze, did their performance decline or increase from the prior years of NFL service?

texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#45

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Yeah, that's a very relevant issue. If you're talking about previous free agent signings, it ought to be easy to research. If you're talking about future ones, I would suggest checking the behavior on and off the field, as well as words of the guy. That, for example, is why I was/am opposed to re-signing Finley for big money. He seems like a prime candidate to revert to his old ways instead of playing like he did the year or so before his injury. I would liken it to a fat girl thinning down long enough to capture a husband - you just know she will get fat again.

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Pack93z
Select Member

11 years ago

#46

Apparently he didn't like it when I asked him to move to safety... lol.

Charles Tillman has no interest in moving to safety

Posted by Josh Alper on February 19, 2014, 2:59 PM EST

Charles Tillman doesn’t know what city he’ll call home next season, but he’s quite sure which position he’ll be playing.

The 33-year-old impending free agent said on 670 The Score on Wednesday that he doesn’t “want to play safety anywhere” in 2014, quashing any idea that he’d follow Charles Woodson, Rod Woodson and other corners without the last name of Woodson in making the transition from cornerback in the latter stages of his career.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#47

The salary cap supposedly went up to 130m this year so that leaves GB with 32m I think at the moment. I could definitely at least see some competition level FA signings this year. There is a fairly deep market at some positions like DL and ILB that were pretty weak last year.

dhazer
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#48

The Buffalo Bills plan to place the franchise tag on impending free-agent FS Jairus Byrd if they are not able to reach a contract agreement with him before the start of free agency

Oh well that was on kffl

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

dhazer
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#49

Originally Posted by: steveishere

http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#sthash.Hy5Eq3uN.dpuf

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

DakotaT
Select Member

11 years ago

#50

Originally Posted by: dhazer

We better be doing the same with Shields.

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