pokethebear
11 years ago
PFWT, that is exactly how I feel about Collins. If there were any way at all for him to continue playing the Packers would never have let him walk. It was a damned shame, but it just wasn't to be.

As far as Finley is concerned, I feel that he never lived up to all the hype. For every big play he made he had just as many drops. And that was when he could get on the field. The potential is still there, but the cost will prove to be to great to bear.

I say use the money to resign Jones and keep our WR corp intact. This will be beneficial to any TE whether it is Quarless, Bostic or someone that is drafted this year. Imagine if we have a rash of injuries to the receivers again next year.

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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

I would have to say, Collins is misremembering. If his claim that the Packers doctor was the only one that wouldn't clear him, than why was is he not playing anywhere else? The Packers released him, which means he was free to go to any of those other teams and let those doctors clear him to play.

While I am not a doctor nor did I sleep at a Holiday Inn Express, I would apprehensive to bring a player back with a neck injury like that, especially at a position where hitting is so much a part of the job.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



I'm pretty sure he is not talking about several years ago, but clearing or rejecting in the present, so I doubt he is misremembering.

Why would you be apprehensive - from the TEAM point of view - if the LAWYERS (f--- the doctors) say the team is protected?


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Dulak
11 years ago

PFWT, that is exactly how I feel about Collins. If there were any way at all for him to continue playing the Packers would never have let him walk. It was a damned shame, but it just wasn't to be.

As far as Finley is concerned, I feel that he never lived up to all the hype. For every big play he made he had just as many drops. And that was when he could get on the field. The potential is still there, but the cost will prove to be to great to bear.

I say use the money to resign Jones and keep our WR corp intact. This will be beneficial to any TE whether it is Quarless, Bostic or someone that is drafted this year. Imagine if we have a rash of injuries to the receivers again next year.

Go Packers!

Originally Posted by: pokethebear 



Whats sad is - I saw a big change in finley this year - he bulked up; and looked much better on the field. I started to think he might turn out to be a vernon davis type ...
and then the injury.

I dont know if the packers should try to keep him or not. Its one thing having a neck injury and another neck surgery ... btw how is the surgery supposed to help the injury? - did it help to correct the problem? did it help with the underlying cause? ... same with collins.

GL to finley - if he 'clears' our 'doctor' I hope he is on our team (at the right price).

play2win
11 years ago

Whats sad is - I saw a big change in finley this year - he bulked up; and looked much better on the field. I started to think he might turn out to be a vernon davis type ...
and then the injury.

I dont know if the packers should try to keep him or not. Its one thing having a neck injury and another neck surgery ... btw how is the surgery supposed to help the injury? - did it help to correct the problem? did it help with the underlying cause? ... same with collins.

GL to finley - if he 'clears' our 'doctor' I hope he is on our team (at the right price).

Originally Posted by: Dulak 



I saw the change for the positive last season with Finley too, but I can't help but think "too little, too late." He will be wanting the moon in terms of salary, and even bargained down, I think giving him a contract is too great a risk. I'd rather give the cash to a guy like Jones as was mentioned earlier by pokethebear.
nerdmann
11 years ago

I saw the change for the positive last season with Finley too, but I can't help but think "too little, too late." He will be wanting the moon in terms of salary, and even bargained down, I think giving him a contract is too great a risk. I'd rather give the cash to a guy like Jones as was mentioned earlier by pokethebear.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Ever since Aaron started meeting with him the night before games to go over the game plan with him, he's gotten more with the program. He's shut his pie hole too.

But he still thinks he's better than he is and will still demand more money than he's worth.
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DakotaT
11 years ago

Ever since Aaron started meeting with him the night before games to go over the game plan with him, he's gotten more with the program. He's shut his pie hole too.

But he still thinks he's better than he is and will still demand more money than he's worth.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Which is why I don't think he's in a Packers uniform next season. I'd rather draft a big wide receiver, resign Jones, and go with Quarless and Bostic at TE. The first responsibility of a tight end is blocking, and with our improved running game, Finley is just not a good fit. Quarless on the other hand is.
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play2win
11 years ago

Which is why I don't think he's in a Packers uniform next season. I'd rather draft a big wide receiver, resign Jones, and go with Quarless and Bostic at TE. The first responsibility of a tight end is blocking, and with our improved running game, Finley is just not a good fit. Quarless on the other hand is.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I couldn't agree more with this. Yeah, Finley always thought he was better than he actually played. Sure, he is a matchup problem for other defenses, but he wasn't what you would consider to be a sure, reliable receiving TE like some of the others around the league. And, wish suspect blocking, he doesn't seem worth half of his last contract… now, add the neck injury. Forget it. He ought to be done in GB.
play2win
11 years ago

Ever since Aaron started meeting with him the night before games to go over the game plan with him, he's gotten more with the program. He's shut his pie hole too.

But he still thinks he's better than he is and will still demand more money than he's worth.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



That blew my mind that the guy needed all of this special attention and counsel the night before games. Wow. Get with the program already...
Mucky Tundra
11 years ago

Ever since Aaron started meeting with him the night before games to go over the game plan with him, he's gotten more with the program. He's shut his pie hole too.

But he still thinks he's better than he is and will still demand more money than he's worth.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Isn't that the same crap that happened with Romo in Dallas with TO because he thought Romo was ignoring him to throw to Witten?
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nerdmann
11 years ago

That blew my mind that the guy needed all of this special attention and counsel the night before games. Wow. Get with the program already...

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Yeah, show up for and pay attention in, the team meetings like a goddamn normal person. This IS your job after all. lol

FACT: Finley KNOWS McKenzie is too conservative to allow him back on the field. His ONLY HOPE is to avoid that examination altogether and go to a different team. If I'm Jmike, my agent is scouting out which teams have the most liberal team physicians.
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