Kiper mock 1.0 reaction: Packers· Page 3

steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

Do you have any sources for that?

Not that I don't trust you. Your posts are always insightful and I fully believe you, but I must've been looking at the wrong Mocks then and I always like to find some more draftnicks to follow.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder

Not mocks just different draft bloggers I follow like Josh Norris, Dane Brugler, Matt Miller, Tony Pauline, Daniel Jeremiah. Pretty much everyone I've seen on my timeline loves Calvin Pryor as a prospect.

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#22

Ah, yeah, I remember that hype. Didn't he go in the 4th?

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder

He did. Barrett Jones to the Rams at 113 pick.

steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#23

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/calvin-pryor-vs-rutgers-2013/

Here's some vid of pryor if anyone cares

Yerko
Senior Member

11 years ago

#24

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/calvin-pryor-vs-rutgers-2013/

Here's some vid of pryor if anyone cares

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Watching the video against Rutgers, his latest game...didn't seem very impressive. He filled some gaps on the running game but most of those tackles are shoelace tackles that won't work in the NFL. There were a few passing plays where it looked like he was the one who blew coverage as well. He can tackle the WRs but almost every tackle he made was with his head down which can either be penalized or lead to him getting injured frequently.

Maybe I'm wrong. I'm no Mel Kiper...but if I was given THAT game to watch and had to make a decision, I wouldn't put out a 1st round pick on him. I'd defer my 1st round pick, trade up in the 2nd and get him there.

Him vs Ha'Sean Clinton-Dix doesn't even seem like a question so I am assuming Kiper has someone taking him before the 21st pick.

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#25

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder

I was wandering around the web looking at different mock drafts when I came to this site . They have links to over 100 other sites and their drafts.

I will make a couple of comments.

First I don't know how long the links will stay up. This host site is looking for payola to keep them on.

Second Rocky you may know more than some of these people who posts their picks.

Third This is at a Washington Redskins site so not all of the "drafts" complete the first round.

From what I have seen from these links which I only did about 20 of them and a few others before I found this place, TE Amaro is the first choice. LB Mosley is second. Defense is overwhelmingly the way people expect GB to go with 60% of the guesses going to a defensive player. LB 6 DL 6 DB 4

Rockmolder
Honored Member

11 years ago

#26

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Ah, thanks. My Twitter is such a mess with all the beat writers, draftnicks, Dutch people and everything that I miss a lot. I think I'll make a list for those guys. I love to read Daniel Jeremiah's stuff, especially.

sschind
Senior Member

11 years ago

#27

Our defense would be just as bad, and I can only imagine what people would be saying had we drafted a WR in the first round last year.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

I think they would have screamed bloody murder at the time but if we would have drafted Patterson I think they may be OK with it now.

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

11 years ago

#28

I was wandering around the web looking at different mock drafts when I came to this site . They have links to over 100 other sites and their drafts.

Originally Posted by: wpr

Nice find! 👍

“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”

"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers

steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#29

Originally Posted by: Yerko

That's not what I saw at all. He's an active playmaker who attacks the football and attacks runners. He makes some mistakes because of aggressiveness but he's not wild and I think we could use some aggressiveness. It's not a highlight tape it's a scouting cut up of routine plays lol it isn't meant to be exciting. Clinton Dix scouting cut ups don't really look any different.

sschind
Senior Member

11 years ago

#30

Maybe I'm wrong. I'm no Mel Kiper...

Originally Posted by: Yerko

We are all thankful there is only one Mel Kiper.

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