DakotaT
10 years ago

But you said in another post he would get another big payday. Why would he get another big payday if he was going to be a declining player.

All I know is that several of us were discussing a Williams restructuring, you came in and said we were pulling stuff out of our asses (not sure where you are getting your inside information from) and then started harping on the importance of signing Shields, a point on which no one disagrees.

I also agree with you that cutting Williams is a distinct possibility. I pretty much said as much when I said it is not very likely that Williams will play for the Packers in 2014 with a 9.5 million cap hit. The other option is a restructure which I think is more likely.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



I think Williams could get another decent contract somewhere else, I just don't want us to be the ones giving it to him. So what I really see happening is Williams playing out his current contract. But if we need money to sign Shields, then I see us cutting Williams. We do have pretty good corners with the Triple H's, but Shields is far and away better than all our corners. I see Shields getting the franchise tag to tell you the truth.
UserPostedImage
Bigbyfan
10 years ago

I think Williams could get another decent contract somewhere else, I just don't want us to be the ones giving it to him. So what I really see happening is Williams playing out his current contract. But if we need money to sign Shields, then I see us cutting Williams. We do have pretty good corners with the Triple H's, but Shields is far and away better than all our corners. I see Shields getting the franchise tag to tell you the truth.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I doubt the Packers end up using the franchise tag on him mainly because of the high cap number. I believe I read somewhere that the tag number for cornerback is supposed to be something like $11 mill. It's more likely they give him a deal around the 8-9 mill per year range.


blank
steveishere
10 years ago
I think an extension for tramon is more likely. You can guarantee his 9m or whatever so he still gets it and tack on a few years at a reasonable yearly average to lower the cap hit. Everyones happy. He played some great football towards the 2nd half of the year anyways and it was the first times since his injury that he started looking like his old self. Hes one of the few players that actually stepped up and played this year instead of dropping off when things were looking bad after rodgers went down.
Mucky Tundra
10 years ago

I think an extension for tramon is more likely. You can guarantee his 9m or whatever so he still gets it and tack on a few years at a reasonable yearly average to lower the cap hit. Everyones happy. He played some great football towards the 2nd half of the year anyways and it was the first times since his injury that he started looking like his old self. Hes one of the few players that actually stepped up and played this year instead of dropping off when things were looking bad after rodgers went down.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



And to be honest, for a team that's so young and is questioned repeatedly about leadership, can we afford to lose too many of the older guys?
“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”
UserPostedImage
"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers
musccy
10 years ago

And to be honest, for a team that's so young and is questioned repeatedly about leadership, can we afford to lose too many of the older guys?

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Agreed. I'm not too keen on paying Tramon 9.5mil this year (if the team couldn't restructure), but the other end of the spectrum is even less attractive. Not to say that the 1996 and 2010 roads are the only paths to success, but the I don't see it as coincidental that there was a lot of veteran leadership on those squads at a number of key positions.

play2win
10 years ago
Another player I would love for Ted to sign in FA is Bernard Pollard, SS from TEN. Maybe move Morgan Burnett to FS or add another FS altogether in the draft. Pollard is an enforcer. Just the kind of veteran presence we need at S.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/9640/bernard-pollard 
DoddPower
10 years ago

Another player I would love for Ted to sign in FA is Bernard Pollard, SS from TEN. Maybe move Morgan Burnett to FS or add another FS altogether in the draft. Pollard is an enforcer. Just the kind of veteran presence we need at S.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/9640/bernard-pollard 

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Did he only sign a one year deal with the Titans?

EDIT: Guess so.

Impending free agent SS Bernard Pollard expressed a desire to return to the Titans. "I do want to come back, but some things have to be done right for me to be here," Pollard said. What he's referring to is unclear, but Pollard did voice support for coach Mike Munchak. Pollard, 29, signed a one-year deal with Tennessee and has registered a career-high 134 tackles in 2013. He's been solid against the run, as usual, and is a top-18 safety at Pro Football Focus. Fri, Dec 27, 2013 09:11:00 AM
Source: Nashville Tennessean

RotoWorld wrote:

buckeyepackfan
10 years ago
My best guess at what Ted will do with the Packers Free Agents going into 2014.

Tramon Williams will restructure or he will be cut(don't want that) (apprx 7 mil )
Other players that can restructure to create more cap space

Jordy Nelson
Brian Bulaga
AJ Hawk
Brad Jones
I can see Ted working new deals with(some or all of) these guys that should free up another 7 mil

That would give The Packers around 37 mil under the cap.



Unrestricted
1.QB Seneca Wallace.........gone

2.QB Matt Flynn(4yrs, vet min, + bonuses(1.5 mil cap)

3.FB John Kuhn(2 yr, vet min, +bonuses(1.5 mil cap)

4.RB James Starks(2yrs vet min 3mil signing bonus) apprx 2.5 mil(cap)

5.RB Kahlil Bell...gone

6.WR James Jones(2 yrs vet min, 3 mil signing bonus, ) apprx 2.5 mil(cap)

7.TE Jermichael Finley...gone

8.TE Andrew Quarless(2 yrs vet min, + bonuses) 2 mil (cap)

9.T Marshall Newhouse..gone

10.C Evan Dietrich-Smith(prob gone will get offer Packers can't match)

11.DT Johnny Jolly(1 yr vet min + bonuses) 1.5 mil (cap)

12.DT Ryan Pickett(1 yr vet min + bonuses) 2mil(cap)

13.DT B.J. Raji..gone

14.DE C.J. Wilson(4 yr 1.5 mil + 2 mil signing bonus) 2 mil (cap)

15.DE Mike Neal(4 yr 1.5 mil + 2 mil signing bonus) 2 mil (cap)

16.LB Robert Francois...gone(someone will offer him more than Packers can afford)

17.CB Sam Shields(Must Sign, best guess 4 yrs) 6 mil(cap)


Restricted
1.LB Jamari Lattimore (Ted will match any offer) (best guess 2mil cap)

2.S M.D. Jennings..gone (will get an offer which will make Teds job easy)

That's 25.5 mil which would leave around 10 mil for rookies and other FA.

I am probably 100% wrong here, but if I am close, I don't see much room for Ted to sign any top Free Agent.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
gbguy20
10 years ago
Don't we have any carryover cap space from this season that can help us out? I thought we were 7.25 mill under the cap this year?
BAD EMAIL because the address couldn ot be found, or is unable to receive mail.
musccy
10 years ago
Good leg work Buckeye. I disagree that Jordy and Hawk will restructure, so I think it's wishful thinking that there will be that much space left, I also doubt Jones would sign for that little. I think he'd be willing to stay for some sort of a hometown discount, but I think that's way too much of a discount from what he'd be offered elsewhere.

I'm nitpicking though, good post.
Fan Shout
Mucky Tundra (2h) : @AaronNagler · 2m Both Jordan Love and Malik Willis were Limited participants at Packers practice today.
Zero2Cool (5h) : Johnson didn't make it until 2020. Ring 2023. 🤷 Personally, he should have been in years prior to Hall.
Zero2Cool (5h) : HUMP DAY
beast (5h) : Guys that have a good shot at making the NFL Hall of Fame usually get into their teams pretty fast
beast (5h) : Yeah, but is Kampman and the others in the NFL Hall of Fame?
Zero2Cool (5h) : Johnson was Hall of Fame, 2020. Should haev been in Ring a year later, not three years.
Zero2Cool (5h) : I could be wrong there though
Zero2Cool (5h) : Guys like Kampman, Tim Harris, Al Harris, etc all over 15 years. Hall of Fame is 5 year wait
Zero2Cool (5h) : I guess I see players in Packers Hall come way later
beast (5h) : Yeah, usually teams hall of fames are a much lower bar than the NFL
Zero2Cool (5h) : is it uncommon for Hall before Ring?
Zero2Cool (6h) : S Xavier McKinney named first-team All-Pro by NFLPA
beast (7h) : I missed it, sorry, but he got into the NFL Hall of Fame years before that
Zero2Cool (7h) : Jones took his sweet ole time!
Zero2Cool (7h) : Yeah, he's in the ring of honor, just saw video and his name is up there
Zero2Cool (7h) : Didn't they have a thing in 2023 for Jimmy's ring of honor? I swear I saw it
beast (8h) : Though if they're legitimately trying to re-sign MM, then it makes sense.
beast (8h) : Jerry Jones still hasn't put Jimmy Johnson in the Ring of Honor, but he's in the NFL's Hall of Fame, Jones is petty
Mucky Tundra (19h) : Unless the Cowboys are planning an extension, seems kinda petty
beast (21h) : Cowboys denied Bears request
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : From what I'm reading, MM is under contract through the 14th of January; after that he's free game
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : McCarthy let go or not extended??
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Chicago Bears have asked the Dallas Cowboys permission to interview Mike McCarthy for head coaching vacancy
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : The winners page that is
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : I was not hoping for that. It messes up the page lol
beast (6-Jan) : Thank you, and I was really opening we were going to get 4 or more tied for the top 3.
beast (6-Jan) : Thank you, and I was really opening we were going to get 4 or more tied for the top 3.
beast (6-Jan) : Thank you, and I was really opening we were going to get 4 or more tied for the top 3
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : congrats beast on 2024 !
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : congrats porky on winning 2023 pick'em! (oops sorry)
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : Packers have $60M+ of 2025 cap space on paper TODAY.
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Missed FG into a Lions TD; that'll do pig, that'll do
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : That might be it for the Vikings
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Oh so the refs do know what intentional grounding is
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : what the hell was that Goff?! Not much pressure and he just air mails it to Harrison
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : They really need to to get rid of the auto first down for illegal contact
Martha Careful (6-Jan) : watching the Vikings and Lions it's understandable why they swept the Packers. So much better product
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Even when GB got pressure he was throwing darts; vs no pressure on that last pass he just air mails an open guy
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : didn't have guys in his face ... pressure makes difference
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Where was this Darnold vs GB?
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : BALL DON'T LIE
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : how was that not a safety? Goff throws it at an offensive lineman
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Zero, I thought that was a given! ;)
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Zero I looked through earlier and noticed the same thing. Bonkers year. I just wonder if beast put any money on games
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : I'm hoping for BLOODBATH. Pummel one another.
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : 8 people in pick'em would have won any year with their total lol
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : I'm rooting for the Lions to lose.
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : God help me but I'm rooting for the Vikings to...Vikings to...Christ I can't say it
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : 4 td for Rodgers
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : Chiefs got shutout
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

18h / Around The NFL / beast

7-Jan / Fantasy Sports Talk / wpr

7-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

7-Jan / Fantasy Sports Talk / Zero2Cool

6-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

6-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

6-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

6-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

6-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

6-Jan / Featured Content / Zero2Cool

6-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

5-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

5-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

3-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.