beast
11 years ago

I really don't want to see Pickett as a starter anymore, but if he accepted a rotational role on a veteran team friendly deal it would be OK.

Boyd and Jones have earned their spots on this team. I also hope Johnny Jolly is back because he plays with a lot of heart.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



If Pickett out plays the rest to EARN a starting role AGAIN then he deserves to start. It's not his fault others couldn't out play him... even when he was asked to play out of position at the 3-4 DE spot... they still didn't beat him out. I say resign Pickett to a team fiendly (hopefully cheap) deal and let him compete with everyone else for their spot, and don't give anyone a spot... maybe them earn it.

That being said I'm pretty sure Pickett (if resign) would be the starting NT again unless they sign someone new in FA or hit a homerun on someone in the draft.

Hopefully the others can out play Pickett when their is no NT.


I hope Jolly is healthy again... and him and Pickett are able to play another year for the Packers. Both of them play with a lot of heart. Though Pickett has no pass rush... Jolly does have some.
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DakotaT
11 years ago

If Pickett out plays the rest to EARN a starting role AGAIN then he deserves to start. It's not his fault others couldn't out play him... even when he was asked to play out of position at the 3-4 DE spot... they still didn't beat him out. I say resign Pickett to a team fiendly (hopefully cheap) deal and let him compete with everyone else for their spot, and don't give anyone a spot... maybe them earn it.

That being said I'm pretty sure Pickett (if resign) would be the starting NT again unless they sign someone new in FA or hit a homerun on someone in the draft.

Hopefully the others can out play Pickett when their is no NT.


I hope Jolly is healthy again... and him and Pickett are able to play another year for the Packers. Both of them play with a lot of heart. Though Pickett has no pass rush... Jolly does have some.

Originally Posted by: beast 




If the best we can do is Pickett at NT, then this team is in a lot more trouble than we think it is.

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beast
11 years ago

If the best we can do is Pickett at NT, then this team is in a lot more trouble than we think it is.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



He's the best NT they've had for years... they tried Raji there because his pass rush and hoped he'd devolop run stuffing but he didn't... and he lost his pass rushing...

And Pickett had a down year, maybe due to injury and maybe do to age... and they do need a long term replacement, but he's a decent run stopper and the best the Packers have had.
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PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago
To bring in a top DT/NT through FA would run up 5-11 million/yr. So the question becomes, how much can we afford to spend keeping Dlineman.

Jolly,Raji,Pickett are the three we have that can handle the NT position. How much would we be willing to pay them per/yr.

If we don't bring Raji back and go with Jolly and/or Pickett because of their age, it means we need to look for a NT in the draft.


The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
DakotaT
11 years ago

To bring in a top DT/NT through FA would run up 5-11 million/yr. So the question becomes, how much can we afford to spend keeping Dlineman.

Jolly,Raji,Pickett are the three we have that can handle the NT position. How much would we be willing to pay them per/yr.

If we don't bring Raji back and go with Jolly and/or Pickett because of their age, it means we need to look for a NT in the draft.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



We have Boyd and Daniels too.

And for those that say Pickett and Raji are the best we have, well I say that is not good enough and a total cop out. I prefer Raji and Pickett off the roster and bring in other guys. Those two get no push up the middle, and the Packers run defense has been getting gashed repeatedly. Raji and Pickett offer nothing for pass rush either. So somebody please explain to me, like I'm a four year old child, why it is we need to keep either of these players that look as if they are just going through the motions instead of playing with passion and heart.
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beast
11 years ago

why it is we need to keep either of these players that look as if they are just going through the motions instead of playing with passion and heart.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I'm sure there are better players out there than Pickett and Jolly... but neither just went though the motions they both played hard with passion and heart. You might not like Pickett lack of pass rush skill but doesn't mean he didn't do his best and do it with passion and heart just like Jolly does.

But like I said all of them can be upgraded... it will be intesting to see if Ted Thompson goes into FA this season or not... I think he should some, at least a good Safety. And better DL and OLB wouldn't hurt.
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nerdmann
11 years ago
What's Corey Williams doing these days?
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago

We have Boyd and Daniels too.

And for those that say Pickett and Raji are the best we have, well I say that is not good enough and a total cop out. I prefer Raji and Pickett off the roster and bring in other guys. Those two get no push up the middle, and the Packers run defense has been getting gashed repeatedly. Raji and Pickett offer nothing for pass rush either. So somebody please explain to me, like I'm a four year old child, why it is we need to keep either of these players that look as if they are just going through the motions instead of playing with passion and heart.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I don't see Boyd and Daniels playing NT.

Who are we going to bring in instead of Raji and Pickett and How much are you willing to spend. To get a better NT is going to cost easily 5 million minimum and even at that price there is no guarantee that whoever id brought in is going to be better.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
nerdmann
11 years ago

I don't see Boyd and Daniels playing NT.

Who are we going to bring in instead of Raji and Pickett and How much are you willing to spend. To get a better NT is going to cost easily 5 million minimum and even at that price there is no guarantee that whoever id brought in is going to be better.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Move Daniels to OLB. They did it with Neal.


“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago

Move Daniels to OLB. They did it with Neal.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Neal was quite a bit smaller than Daniels. Daniels has been doing pretty well at DE.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
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