Geez musccy you are so defensive. You act like I called your daughter ugly or something. As you said this is one play. I am not complaining about the whole game on this play. But it was indicative.


3. Yes they ran the play on first down but it set the whole series up for failure. If they got 4 yards on first down the defense would have to cover the run up the middle again. That leaves the Packers with options of passing or throwing. By gaining only 1 yard they could no longer run the ball. There are no deep routes. It is all quick passes.

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Originally Posted by: wpr 

What hurts me is a team that was better than us gave us a chance to beat them and we failed. We really could have beat them. This is one thing I do notice about this team. We never beat a team better than us, but will sometimes find a way to lose to a team that is less talented. It pisses me off too.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 

I feel like we'll keep talking in circles but I wanted to acknowledge the points you made in a thorough post.

Originally Posted by: musccy 

I get the smashmouth, and drawing LBs inside on a short field in a 2 TE set, I get there's a time and a place and all that you said.

Just in a nutshell, I feel like you give Cobb a chance to get an edge quickly to beat 1-2 LBs and some dbs hopefully being blocked by a tackle or pulled guard and two WRs we still had on the left side isn't such a bad option even on a short field.

There is no guarantee that Lacy would gain 9 or even 4 yards as you suggested in your 3rd point, so we very well could have still been in 2nd and goal from the 7, 8, or 9 even if we lined up Lacy from a power running formation.

Like we've acknowledged, we're wasting way too much time talking about one of 60 offensive plays, so I'll step back and remove my undies from the bundle they're currently in and find something more constructive to do - like piss and moan about something else I have no control over in another thread 🤣

I'm not buying putting it mostly or all on the offense. The defense played better than we were expecting them to but they still gave up almost 400 yards and 23 points to a team with a QB that's been pretty average all year and in defensively favorable conditions. They weren't as good as they needed to be, especially failing to step up with the game on the line. The offense wasn't good enough either but they were also playing against an elite defensive unit in shit weather. It was a team loss all around and overall a pretty well played game against a good team. No need to try and blame a side, GB came to play yesterday but weren't good enough to win that's just football.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 

Let's see what Kaepernick does going forward in the playoffs. I think the Niners held him back from a lot of running during the season to try and make sure he was healthy. Even in the first half of the Packers game, he didn't run much. I think he runs more if needed and therefore becomes more effective in future games. The other thing those games will show is whether or not other teams can stop him - both running and passing, as the Packers had such a hard time doing. I'm not saying other teams will do better or won't - it will be interesting to see.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 

The run game is not about the 4 yards gained.. it is about the related items that come along with running the ball. Wearing down an opposing defense, play action, time of possession and in our case protecting our defense.

We had taken control of their defense late in that game by running the ball, passing and then being able to run or pass in converting 3rd downs.

No one is saying run first.. at least I haven't seen one. It is all about balance and being able to do whatever the game situation calls for. It put us, a weaker overall roster, in a position to win that game. It worked for the most part.. personally, a power run in place of the Cobb play, we are probably talking about the Niners trying to score a TD.

Oh.. and it Hyde holds onto the pick.. we probably run out the clock with the run game as we had the Niners defense tired.

My opinion anyway. Offense is not independent of a defense generally on a football team.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 

I liked the heart that our team displayed after getting punched in the face by the 49ers, both on offense and defense, in that first quarter. They could have put their tail between their legs but didn't. They punched the 49ers right back, both the offense AND the defense.

That performance was a credit to the players and the coaches. We came up short, but it was one play short--don't drop the INT; Cobb score a TD instead of getting tackled inside the 10 yard line, etc.

We get our injured guys back, add players through the draft, get our rookies from last year a full offseason with the team (and Tolzien an offseason with us period) and I'm already starting to look forward to next year.

Originally Posted by: macbob