PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago

I still don't know why we just didn't clock the ball? Blame Flynn all you want I still say this was Mike McCarthy being too fucking cute. Clock the ball and get two plays at the endzone with one of them targeting Jordy.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



I agree with you. Clock the ball with 20 some seconds remaining having the ability to run just about any play option, and even be able to take a sack and get another play off. They could run a longer developing play, roll Flynn out, letting the WR find space.

And if that doesn't work, still have an option to run or pass on the 4th down.

Not to mention the play they called. From the 1 they should NEVER be in shotgun. Get Flynn undercenter where QB sneak is also an option.
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago

I still don't know why we just didn't clock the ball? Blame Flynn all you want I still say this was Mike McCarthy being too fucking cute. Clock the ball and get two plays at the endzone with one of them targeting Jordy.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



What benefit do you have in clocking the ball and stealing a down away? I mean sure hindsight yeah spike the ball and maybe avoid the flag an 10 second runoff.

Best thing would have been to run the ball in that goal line situation as proven by the series prior when the Packers couldn't pass it in on the goal line, but Lacy stuffed it in. Starks was having the same success.

Run Starks, not put the ball in Flynn's hands.


The only pass play I wanted to see if it was a pass was a rollout with a TE/WR drag option. I felt this gave Flynn an option to run it in, or a safe short pass.
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StoicFire
11 years ago

34, 34, 27, 27, 27, 40, 38.

Points given up in each of 7 losses.

Not a team that is going far even if they beat Chicago.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



I disagree. I think we could beat anybody if we get Rodgers back and get in the playoffs.

The playoffs have very little to do with your specific regular season performances. For example, how about this:

27, 31, 32, 34, 24. Points given up in each of Arizona's 5 losses. But they just beat Seattle, in Seattle, only allowing 10.

I just don't see any reason to be that pessimistic. They decide how far they'll go. I'll cross my fingers.
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PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago

What benefit do you have in clocking the ball and stealing a down away? I mean sure hindsight yeah spike the ball and maybe avoid the flag an 10 second runoff.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Clocking the ball, would have given us two shots at the endzone, 3rd and 4th down without a clock issue to worry about.


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Zero2Cool
11 years ago

Clocking the ball, would have given us two shots at the endzone, 3rd and 4th down without a clock issue to worry about.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Clocking wastes a down. Packers were at the 1 yard line. You don't blow downs right there with 20 seconds to go. You just don't do that.

You line up, snap it, punch it in. If you fail to score, you step back three steps and do it again. That'll take a matter of seconds. No problem doing that three times.


I guess I'm more worried about McCarthy having more time to out think himself lol
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PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago

Clocking wastes a down. Packers were at the 1 yard line. You don't blow downs right there with 20 seconds to go. You just don't do that.

You line up, snap it, punch it in. If you fail to score, you step back three steps and do it again. That'll take a matter of seconds. No problem doing that three times.


I guess I'm more worried about McCarthy having more time to out think himself lol

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



In normal situations I would agree. But they were not in a normal situation. Saving downs does nothing for us with 20 seconds left. Assuming they didn't have the false start, and they run the play and don't get in. The clock is going to run, and with a goal line pile, it is unlikely they would unpile and get another play of.

Clocking the ball, they throw away 2nd down, but still have 3rd and 4th to play with and a full 20 seconds. It would give them a chance to sub and get the best personnel for both plays. It would have given them the chance to bring in Daniels and Raji for the Big Doub formation again if they wanted.
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nerdmann
11 years ago

Please nerdy, when we win they are the team that doesn't shat themselves, but when we lose they shat themselves.....

Betcha think we could of went all the way after last week doncha? OH WAIT we shat ourselves yet again, now we're the worst team in the NFL, and the only team that shits themselves on a weekly basis.



Shut the hell up already.. It's not that difficult to tell the difference between winning and losing. Every team shits themselves get over it.

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon 



If you'll follow what I really say, you will realize the following:

1: I call this team out for shitting themselves EVEN WHEN THEY WIN. The problem is, when we win, everyone says it's ok. That's why it persists. And because it persists, that is why we lose games like we did today. Vince Lombardi wasn't getting over it when his men shit themselves.

2: I predicted BEFORE the Cowboys game, that we would win that game, then shit ourselves. Beyond that, I made no predictions. Until today. I just predicted we'd beat Chicago.

EDIT: 3: Oh yeah, I also say we need to find a run D if we're gonna make noise in the playoffs. That and get Aaron and Cobb back.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago
If they wouldn't wear those tight pants, when they shat themselves, the better the chance of not getting so much on themselves.
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DoddPower
11 years ago

1: I call this team out for shitting themselves EVEN WHEN THEY WIN. The problem is, when we win, everyone says it's ok. That's why it persists. And because it persists, that is why we lose games like we did today. Vince Lombardi wasn't getting over it when his men shit themselves.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Again, with the "EVERYONE" thing. Because King Nerdmann is the ONLY Packer fan that can see the issues the team has/had had. What a joke.
sschind
11 years ago

What benefit do you have in clocking the ball and stealing a down away? I mean sure hindsight yeah spike the ball and maybe avoid the flag an 10 second runoff.

Best thing would have been to run the ball in that goal line situation as proven by the series prior when the Packers couldn't pass it in on the goal line, but Lacy stuffed it in. Starks was having the same success.

Run Starks, not put the ball in Flynn's hands.


The only pass play I wanted to see if it was a pass was a rollout with a TE/WR drag option. I felt this gave Flynn an option to run it in, or a safe short pass.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I don't know if they would get a chance for two more plays if they failed on the run. I figured they would clock the ball but I won't argue with the run call either. Personally I think it would have worked. Even if it had not worked they would have had time for at least 1 more play, maybe two but that would have been cutting it close. In essence I agree with zero. But clocking it would have been the choice of most people I think.

Bottom line is we will never know because Barclay didn't know the snap count.
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