texaspackerbacker
11 years ago
I also think Rodgers will be back for Detroit. If not, however, I think McCarthy will go with Flynn. Obviously the bad elbow rumors were wrong. The knock on Tolzien was they had to cut down the playbook, avoid the up tempo, etc. I think Tolzien has more long term ability, but in the short term, Flynn can help more.

Thus, instead of a long term deal with Flynn, I'd rather give Tolzien a chance to beat him out in camp next season.
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DakotaT
11 years ago

Tolzien had his shot. Now Flynn is the man. He's earned it.

Tolzien still has developmental potential, but Flynn looks like his arm is just fine. Loved the moxie on that 4th down play to go with the hard count!

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Are you insane, that ball had so much dying quail in it, Uncle Si could have shot that one down.
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DakotaT
11 years ago
Flynn is a very good backup QB option in our system though. And we should lock him up to a reasonable contract. He's already been overpaid by Seattle and Oakland, maybe we can get him for a reasonable price. But if the league continues to have major suckage at QB - all bets are off, and Flynn might be overpaid again.
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago

Are you insane, that ball had so much dying quail in it, Uncle Si could have shot that one down.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



If arm strength was the tell all then B.J. Coleman would still be in a Packers uniform. A quarterback is vastly more than their strength of arm. Fact of the matter is with Matt Flynn at the helm, the offense is operated by someone who knows it in and out and has proven he can do so.

The Packers need efficiency from the QB, not someone who can chuck it 70 yards with a flick of their wrist. Besides, do you really think the Packers offensive line allows a QB time to throw it deep and utilize that arm strength? NO.

Methodically moving the chains is the type of offense we need and Matt Flynn can do that.
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play2win
11 years ago
I'm just glad Flynn got some work in Sunday against MIN to better prepare for what I anticipate will be his start in DET. I can't imagine they would risk bringing Rodgers back early for that one if Flynn is able to run our offense. The team played to a different level once he came in, and he almost pulled out the win. I'll take the tie. Flynn did a great job being a system QB. He knew what to do, and he pretty much did what we needed to avoid the loss. Not a great arm, but he is smart and his 4 years with McCarthy and GB showed yesterday. Able to run the 2 minute offense without a single snap of it in practice. Remarkable, his command of that. Just what we needed to get back in the game, down 16 points in the 4th Q.

Now, let's see what he can do with a few days of prep as the #1.
nerdmann
11 years ago

Are you insane, that ball had so much dying quail in it, Uncle Si could have shot that one down.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



He underthrew one, but with the right mechanics he can get it downfield.
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Dulak
11 years ago

I agree - ok ok Tolzien is new and wed like him to be a good backup; but like play2win said 5 INTs in 2 games killed it for us. Thats game over; Just like running backs need ball security else we lose games - same goes with QBs. Its great he can throw bombs; but that wont help if the other team is scoring more due to our INTs.

Remember when the giants were the worst team in the NFL ... we lost to them ... now the vikings ... and then lions ... got some peeps coming over for thanksgiving here in the UK Id at least like to show them a team that isnt going to suck that bad ... I dont want to have to say "normally we would of won this game but blah blah blah".

Originally Posted by: Dulak 



About freakin time we got a QB to play.

Granted flynn wasnt outstanding - but we were going nowhere fast again with tolzien at the helm. And we at least tied it up.



Laser Gunns
11 years ago
Arm strength is a very overrated value in QBs, accuracy and the ability to quickly read and react "correctly" is the most important.

Flynn can do that. Very well.

Besides, I think he acknowledged my "FLYNNING!" Sign I had at Seahawks TC last year. Or I like to think he did.

He's cool in my book.

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dhazer
11 years ago

Arm strength is a very overrated value in QBs, accuracy and the ability to quickly read and react "correctly" is the most important.

Flynn can do that. Very well.

Besides, I think he acknowledged my "FLYNNING!" Sign I had at Seahawks TC last year. Or I like to think he did.

He's cool in my book.

Originally Posted by: RajiRoar 



So how did it work out starting Flynn against the Lions? It showed his weakness of no arm strength and how he locked in on 1 receiver. As I said in chat I think Zero could have played better at qb and they should have let Tolzein start the 2nd half. He would atleast run with the ball instead of stand there like a deer in headlights and get crushed by the defense.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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GermanGilbert
11 years ago

It showed his weakness of no arm strength.....

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



No arm strength? Show me another QB that can throw 40% of his total passing yards in just one play [grin1]


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