DoddPower
11 years ago

Haha this is exactly what I'm talking about matthews is a wash he was on 10, perry hasn't shown much but is on the way up. Same with neal, datone jones< Jenkins 2010 by a mile, Heyward has been hurt all year and < tramon 2010 our top cb then. Burnett is good but nowhere near Collins. Rbs are much better this year and Davon House had looked more like a stud than a dud.

Originally Posted by: coltonja 



Regardless, this team doesn't have to be "as good" as the 2010 team to win the Super Bowl again. They just have to be one point better than everyone else they play in the playoffs, if they make it.

When Rodgers is healthy and this running game, the Packers have a chance to be one point better than any team in the NFL, and a realistic chance at that.

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11 years ago
GB has zero chance without Aaron. He is the difference between 2010 ad this team.
The only chance they have is if Wallace doesn't screw up too much before Aaron comes back. I will make that 10%.
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago

GB has zero chance without Aaron. He is the difference between 2010 ad this team.
The only chance they have is if Wallace doesn't screw up too much before Aaron comes back. I will make that 10%.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Thought the difference was Cullen Jenkins?
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Thought the difference was Cullen Jenkins?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



then you thought wrong.
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buckeyepackfan
11 years ago

I've often said that if Aaron went down, it would force this team to adhere to fundamentals.

This team is known for not showing up for a full 60 and continuously going into lulls. They don't seem to show up until "adversity" hits and their backs are against the wall.

I've always said this was a case in point, of what I am talking about. Look what happened in '10. The Packers were on the verge of elimination, they had to win 5 games in a row just to qualify for the playoffs, then they had to win all the way through.

And they did it.

We've been at that point this season too, forced to ADHERE TO FUNDAMENTALS in order to play consistently and win games. Well, fundamentals are the key to winning.

It's put up or shut up time. They WON'T be stat whoring from here on out. Let's see what this team can do.

Anybody with me? I think we can be successful.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



You're such a fricken hypocrit.

You were the fisrt and most vocal of anyone as you threw player after player under the bus in Live chat during Monday's game.
Then you come up with your favorite "stat-whoring" comment, which has been proven wrong time and time again, yet you fail to see the ignorance in the statement.

Now it seems you have come up with a new "nerdman favorite" Fundamentals, as if The Packers have been playing out of control, not adhering to basics that they have learned from day 1.

Come Sunday if plays don't go exactly as you think they should, you will once again be the 1st to throw players under the bus, and start whining how this should be done and that should be done.

Now you want everyone to "be with you" like you are the only one who has any confidence in The Packers as a team to grind through this latest setback?

You like over/unders...here's a few for you.

How many time will you claim a packer has failed"?

How many time will you claim a Packer has "shit shemsives"?

How many time will "bad fundamentals" be the reason a player was beaten or the other team makes a successful play?

Heres my favorite...How many times will you be absolutley wrong when you give your nerdman play by play instant analysis with only a tv view of the game?
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Common buckeye tell us what you really think.
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warhawk
11 years ago
Well, all I can say is I hope the team is more united and has more resolve than this group here. That's for sure.

If not they are certainly screwed.

I expect Wallace to be better Sunday. The Bears smelled blood knowing the backup has had few reps and they were getting after him. This week will probably be the same but Seneca will be more prepared.

The D needs to pick it up. This is where the fundamentals and assignment sure part really kicks in. That and they need Mathews and Perry out there. They have to get pressure. I saw where Perry and Mathews practiced on a limited basis yesterday.
I don't want to hear about the "medical staff" and their crap or McCarthy say "we're being smart". Playing with a bad heel is not career threatening. Pad it, give him a shot, and get out there. The club can protect Mathews.

We need these guys. I don't want to see a QB "almost" go down and then throw a miracle TD. We can't have a Matt Forte slip through the line and see them 20 yards from anybody because somebody got suckered out of position. The "A" team needs to be on the field.

Now.




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Yerko
11 years ago

They WON'T be stat whoring from here on out. Let's see what this team can do.

Anybody with me? I think we can be successful.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 





Other than that...yes, I am with you. Don't confuse stat whoring and being one of the greatest quarterbacks in the league.
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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

Well, all I can say is I hope the team is more united and has more resolve than this group here. That's for sure.

If not they are certainly screwed.

I expect Wallace to be better Sunday. The Bears smelled blood knowing the backup has had few reps and they were getting after him. This week will probably be the same but Seneca will be more prepared.

The D needs to pick it up. This is where the fundamentals and assignment sure part really kicks in. That and they need Mathews and Perry out there. They have to get pressure. I saw where Perry and Mathews practiced on a limited basis yesterday.
I don't want to hear about the "medical staff" and their crap or McCarthy say "we're being smart". Playing with a bad heel is not career threatening. Pad it, give him a shot, and get out there. The club can protect Mathews.

We need these guys. I don't want to see a QB "almost" go down and then throw a miracle TD. We can't have a Matt Forte slip through the line and see them 20 yards from anybody because somebody got suckered out of position. The "A" team needs to be on the field.

Now.

Originally Posted by: warhawk 



Uh No. The Bears were so stupid that they played the same kind of D - those two safeties 20 or so yards deep - against Wallace that they did against Rodgers for most of the game. When their dumbass D coordinator finally got the message, our running game was shut down.

I hate to say it, but for the first time since before the Favre Era, I will be EXPECTING the Packers to lose - I hope I'm wrong, but if McCarthy stubbornly sticks with that lemon, Wallace, it is just about assured that we will lose. The Eagles will play cautious enough that our D can't win it for us. Knowing Wallace is worthless, they will stack the box and shut down Lacy and Starks. Sorry, but barring a miracle return by Aaron Rodgers or McCarthy going to Tolzien, I just don't see the Packers having a chance.
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warhawk
11 years ago

Uh No. The Bears were so stupid that they played the same kind of D - those two safeties 20 or so yards deep - against Wallace that they did against Rodgers for most of the game. When their dumbass D coordinator finally got the message, our running game was shut down.

I hate to say it, but for the first time since before the Favre Era, I will be EXPECTING the Packers to lose - I hope I'm wrong, but if McCarthy stubbornly sticks with that lemon, Wallace, it is just about assured that we will lose. The Eagles will play cautious enough that our D can't win it for us. Knowing Wallace is worthless, they will stack the box and shut down Lacy and Starks. Sorry, but barring a miracle return by Aaron Rodgers or McCarthy going to Tolzien, I just don't see the Packers having a chance.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Not so sure about that. Philly has the worst Pass D in the league. I'm not going to rate Wallace as so pathetic with more time to prepare that he couldn't hurt the Eagles if they did as you suggest.
ALL teams will try to slow the run game down. It's a lot harder to do when you can't defend the pass. With no prep time McCarthy wasn't about to go downfield with the ball but you can bet he will pull the trigger against this D if they are up in the box as you say.


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