PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago
Expecting Jones and Cobb to miss at least a couple games each, though I think Jones will be back sooner. I would consider this the first time, the offense has really been put to the test as far as depth at the skill positions. They have lost players but it has typically been one here or one there. The defense has faced the multiple injuries many times before, but offensively this will be the real first time McCarthy will be tested to big adjustments for injuries.

Unless some signing is made, play calling is going to need to be adjusted to take advantage of the players we have. Take advantage of our TE's and RBs out of the backfield. Short crossing and drag routes leaving Jordy, Boykin and Finley to stretch the field.

And if there was ever a time to run some friggin screens, it is now.

This next couple weeks will truly show if McCarthy is the offensive GURU that people have claimed, or if his has been the product of Great QB's and extremely good WR groups.
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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago
True, although it may be jumping the gun in assuming one or both of Cobb and Jones will be missing.

If it does happen, or even if either or both is playing hurt, other teams will be playing the Packers more straight up, maybe even more for the running game. That might just make it easier to hit them with some big pass plays. I still say it would be a mistake to be a run first team.
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PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago

True, although it may be jumping the gun in assuming one or both of Cobb and Jones will be missing.

If it does happen, or even if either or both is playing hurt, other teams will be playing the Packers more straight up, maybe even more for the running game. That might just make it easier to hit them with some big pass plays. I still say it would be a mistake to be a run first team.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



I would be surprised if either played next week. Jones definitely didn't look as bad, but knowing how cautious the Packers are with Injuries, I would expect at least 2 weeks for Jones, and 4 or more for Cobb. But it is assumption until we actually hear a diagnosis.

I don't care if the team is run first, pass first or kick a damn FG first as long as what they are doing is working. Run Pass is mostly determined by the defensive formation and matchups though.
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago
3rd and 1 or 2 and the pitch/toss or deep pass for 15+ yards gets on my nerves.

3rd and 3, I'm good with either a screen, run or pass, depending on the flow of the game.


3rd and 1, I want to see Kuhn and Lacy in I formation and just let men be men and let the best man win. I'd rather get stuffed 3rd and 1, than see Finley drop a damn 3rd down pass.
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Porforis
11 years ago

Unless some signing is made, play calling is going to need to be adjusted to take advantage of the players we have. Take advantage of our TE's and RBs out of the backfield. Short crossing and drag routes leaving Jordy, Boykin and Finley to stretch the field.

And if there was ever a time to run some friggin screens, it is now.

This next couple weeks will truly show if McCarthy is the offensive GURU that people have claimed, or if his has been the product of Great QB's and extremely good WR groups.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



I was wondering all game when they were going to bring Franklin out and actually utilize him for his hands which supposedly was his upside. Finley's not been playing great but as essentially then #3 WR he was carrying his weight. Our other TEs aren't reliable enough for significant targets so I would love to see Franklin and Lacie in the backfield at least 5-10 times a game. Plenty of potential for misdirection on runs and a good checkdown option to Franklin on play action.
texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

3rd and 1 or 2 and the pitch/toss or deep pass for 15+ yards gets on my nerves.

3rd and 3, I'm good with either a screen, run or pass, depending on the flow of the game.


3rd and 1, I want to see Kuhn and Lacy in I formation and just let men be men and let the best man win. I'd rather get stuffed 3rd and 1, than see Finley drop a damn 3rd down pass.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



On most of that I agree with you, but letting the best man win might not work out so well with our O Line. Surprising 'em is the key. When Lacy ran on 3rd and 3, it worked great. Running when everybody expects it on 3rd and 1, though, might not do so well. I get annoyed too when there is an unsuccessful deep pass on 3rd and short or 3rd and medium, and it's essential to keep the drive going. A short pass then ought to be damn near 100% sure - a bigger percentage than a 3rd and short run.


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Zero2Cool
11 years ago

On most of that I agree with you, but letting the best man win might not work out so well with our O Line. Surprising 'em is the key. When Lacy ran on 3rd and 3, it worked great. Running when everybody expects it on 3rd and 1, though, might not do so well. I get annoyed too when there is an unsuccessful deep pass on 3rd and short or 3rd and medium, and it's essential to keep the drive going. A short pass then ought to be damn near 100% sure - a bigger percentage than a 3rd and short run.

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I get the keep them on their toes approach, but look, it is next to ALWAYS that the Packers will PASS. We see this, surely opponents do too!

Their was a play where the Packers faked it to Lacy and Rodgers kept it. I loved it! Who seen that coming?

Even a single back with Lacy on 3rd and 1 would be good. Do some play action on a rollout and let Rodgers scamper for the first or hit the trailing TE for the first. We don't need killshot everytime.
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Mucky Tundra (21h) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol
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packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (23-Dec) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
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