MintBaconDrivel
11 years ago

When we said that Bengals safety George Iloka would be getting a package from the league, we were technically wr-wr-wr-inaccurate. He's already gotten it. Per a league source, Iloka was fined $15,000 for the hit applied to the head of Packers tight end Jermichael Finley when Finley was in a defenseless posture. The fine, communicated...

Mike Florio  wrote:


DakotaT
11 years ago
Who gives a fuck! Where was the penalty?
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hardrocker950
11 years ago
🤐 I just don't get this...
Aside from the argument of whether it was intentional - something else is more alarming to me. How many times have we seen a non-call, later to become a fine? This tells me that either the officials don't see the rules the same as the leauge, or they are playing favorites. I just can't see it any other way. The inconsistancy disturbs me - and has actually made some of my friends mad to the point of not watching football anymore.

If these hits were flagged/fined in a consistant manner I wouldn't be so sceptical.
mi_keys
11 years ago
It was the single most egregious personal foul of the day. I called it out the moment it happened. Not flagged. Not talked about.

We then get ticky tacky calls the rest of the day. No consistency. No competence. No purpose.

Fire each and every last official. We need full-time officials, not part-time lawyers with a football hobby. And axe Goodell and all his croonies for their, at best, complacency in all of this; and for their seemingly arbitrary and ineffective discipline.
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Dulak
11 years ago

It was the single most egregious personal foul of the day. I called it out the moment it happened. Not flagged. Not talked about.

We then get ticky tacky calls the rest of the day. No consistency. No competence. No purpose.

Fire each and every last official. We need full-time officials, not part-time lawyers with a football hobby. And axe Goodell and all his croonies for their, at best, complacency in all of this; and for their seemingly arbitrary and ineffective discipline.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



I agree something needs to be done. We are still seeing helmet to helmet hits; and they appear to be intentional; 2 of our guys out due to concussion. Really doesnt make any sense. And listening to aikemans comments during the game about this is how football should be played ... had enough of him.
dhazer
11 years ago

I agree something needs to be done. We are still seeing helmet to helmet hits; and they appear to be intentional; 2 of our guys out due to concussion. Really doesnt make any sense. And listening to aikemans comments during the game about this is how football should be played ... had enough of him.

Originally Posted by: Dulak 




I personally liked Aikman's statement. Football is a game of contact, this is not flag football yet. If you ever played football when you were younger you were taught run thru the guy or hit him hard and make sure he thinks twice abut coming across the middle. I see everyone bitching about this call but what about the gift we got for the roughing the passer on Rodgers where the guy really didn't do anything wrong. The game these days makes me so sick, the nfl has turned into arena football. I really don't think the greats like a Ronnie Lott, Donnie Shell, Jack Tatum or hell even Leroy Butler would be able to play in the current NFL because they would be suspended all the time or fined so much they wouldn't make any money. I have come to the conclusion that NHL players deserve to paid more money than an NFL player just because they actually are in a rougher sport.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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nerdmann
11 years ago

I personally liked Aikman's statement. Football is a game of contact, this is not flag football yet. If you ever played football when you were younger you were taught run thru the guy or hit him hard and make sure he thinks twice abut coming across the middle. I see everyone bitching about this call but what about the gift we got for the roughing the passer on Rodgers where the guy really didn't do anything wrong. The game these days makes me so sick, the nfl has turned into arena football. I really don't think the greats like a Ronnie Lott, Donnie Shell, Jack Tatum or hell even Leroy Butler would be able to play in the current NFL because they would be suspended all the time or fined so much they wouldn't make any money. I have come to the conclusion that NHL players deserve to paid more money than an NFL player just because they actually are in a rougher sport.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Even in the old days, you couldn't spear or take free shots to a dude's head.
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sschind
11 years ago
Well, I guess I am in the minority on this because I didn't see a problem with the hit. At least not enough of one to draw a penalty or fine. He didn't hit with his helmet (that I saw) he hit him with his shoulder pad. Yeah, he hit his head but when you have a receiver diving at you its kind of difficult to hit him in the chest.

I don;t think it was a cheap shot and I don't think it was intentional.

The cheap shot that pissed me off was when Burffect hit Taylor in the nads.
hardrocker950
11 years ago

I personally liked Aikman's statement. Football is a game of contact, this is not flag football yet. If you ever played football when you were younger you were taught run thru the guy or hit him hard and make sure he thinks twice abut coming across the middle. I see everyone bitching about this call but what about the gift we got for the roughing the passer on Rodgers where the guy really didn't do anything wrong. The game these days makes me so sick, the nfl has turned into arena football. I really don't think the greats like a Ronnie Lott, Donnie Shell, Jack Tatum or hell even Leroy Butler would be able to play in the current NFL because they would be suspended all the time or fined so much they wouldn't make any money. I have come to the conclusion that NHL players deserve to paid more money than an NFL player just because they actually are in a rougher sport.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



The biggest issue I have is the conflict between the rules involving conccussed players and helmet to helmet hits. If guys are going to intentionally hit guys in the head to take them out of the game, they need to flag that shit. In reality these guys get a slap on the wrist for taking out key players to give them a better chance to win.[duh]

Doesn't anyone else see the stupidity of this stuff?
steveishere
11 years ago

Well, I guess I am in the minority on this because I didn't see a problem with the hit. At least not enough of one to draw a penalty or fine. He didn't hit with his helmet (that I saw) he hit him with his shoulder pad. Yeah, he hit his head but when you have a receiver diving at you its kind of difficult to hit him in the chest.

I don;t think it was a cheap shot and I don't think it was intentional.

The cheap shot that pissed me off was when Burffect hit Taylor in the nads.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



I haven't seen anyone say it was a cheap shot or intentional. Nobody is ripping Iloka personally like we did with Meriweather but it was a hit that should have been a penalty, hence the fine.
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