They are just BETTER· Page 3

steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#21

that was actually his first 300 yard game. it was mentioned during the broadcast and put up on a little graphic

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

He passed for 300 yards in the last game he had before the GB game and against the superbowl champions no less.

texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#22

If this is about those stupid "power rankings", they mean less than nothing.

The Niners beat us fair and square - well, almost. That makes them the better team by performance the first week. If the game was 61 minutes, it was ours ..... but give them one more possession after that, and who knows?

Is there anybody else better or even close to either the Niners or Packers? I don't think so.

Saying we are not even close? That's just ridiculous. Would anybody say the Niners were not even close to the top if we had the last possession and beat them?

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nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

#23

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

You mean if we had ONE more minute in time of possession? Or let's say 30 seconds, because if you take the ball away from them, that's 30 less that they have too.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

porky88
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#24

I recall the 2007 Giants playing New England in the last game of that season. Nobody gave them a chance. They did lose that week, but they left the field knowing they could play with the Patriots. The same thing happened in 2011. They played the mighty Packers and it took a Mason Crosby game-winning field goal (when he actually made kicks) for the Packers to keep the undefeated streak alive. The Giants also walked away knowing they could play with Green Bay. They won both rematches en route to two Super Bowl titles.

Last year, I don't believe Green Bay ever left the field believing they could play with San Francisco. They kicked the Packers all over the field in both games. Those scores actually don't indicate how much better San Francisco was in 2012. Last week, however, I think (hope) the Packers left the field knowing they can play with the 49ers. They were winning in the fourth quarter. Their defense was matching San Francisco's physicality. For the most part, Rodgers had time to throw. There were many positives to come from this game. Yes, some awful negatives, but San Francisco is supposed to be the best the NFL offers. The Packers went to their house in week one and gave them all they had. We’ll see how the season goes, but I’m looking forward to a potential rematch this time.

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play2win
Senior Member

11 years ago

#25

We were within 1 score against one of the top teams in the league.

We had lousy field position all night (some of it self-induced), we played sloppy with turnovers and penalties, and WE STILL LOST BY LESS THAN 7 POINTS.

In this game, the 49ers were better...but not much better.

Last year in the playoffs, they were a LOT better.

We eliminate our own errors and this is a win. And since this was only the first game of the season, we have time to straighten out KO returners who bring it out when they should have taken a knee, LGs who are still adjusting to playing on the left side rather than the right, etc.

It's incredibly difficult to win every game. I'd rather be peaking at the end of the season (2010) than too early in the season (2011).

Originally Posted by: macbob

From the standpoint of watching that game in real time, did it seem to you we were IN this game?

Did you get the sense that we were dominating? Did you get the sense that WE were going to WIN?

When we tied it at the half, I thought it more a freak anomaly. When we went ahead with 6 minutes left in the 4th, I got the sense there was just too much time and that they would score to take the lead.

We seemed horribly pourus against the pass and more reactionary on offense for me to think we were really in this game, with a legit chance to win. Had our D lifted and made some things happen in the 4th Quarter it all would have changed.

Looking at the game from afar, yeah, we were close. One score away. But, in that game real time, that last score looked insurmountable. So much so, you almost knew how it would play out before our own last score. It's just the way that game went.

I do agree macbob, if we are going to peak I would rather it be at the end of the season going into the playoffs.

If we can only win one game this year against SF, I'll gladly take the playoff game for the W!

play2win
Senior Member

11 years ago

#26

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

Did you know Rodgers is 0-17 vs. .500 teams and better in 4th Quarter comebacks?

Yeesh. I don't like to make mention of this fact, but there it is. I hope Rodgers and the Packers (this stat is in no way just on Rodgers, but the entire Packers team) can change that.

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

#27

Originally Posted by: play2win

They definitely "let us hang around." But we also shit ourselves, repeatedly.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

sschind
Senior Member

11 years ago

#28

Originally Posted by: play2win

Does that stat take into account games where he did get the lead in the 4th quarter only to have the defense piss it away.

play2win
Senior Member

11 years ago

#29

Not sure how "top dog" it is to be ranked #7 by AP, #6 by FOX (and that's advancing one position simply because we hung with SF), #7 by ESPN, #9 by CBS... Hey! Bleacher Report has us at #5!!!

Honestly, I don't put a whole lot into that either texaspackerbacker. My gut feeling on this is Mike McCarthy is dealing with a good number of unknowns. The run game, his OL, and his secondary depth without Burnett, Hayward and House in there... He is going to have to figure out how best to play his guys, which are his best guys, and get this whole thing dialed in nice and tight after the bye week for a really nice run through the remainder of the season and into the playoffs.

That is a lot of ground to cover, and a lot can happen over these next 19 weeks or so. Hopefully we can go into the bye 2-1, with a more firm handle on what kind of team we really are, and a solid plan moving forward. Hopefully, we can get the rest of our guys healthy, and that they can stay healthy throughout.

We can be top dog again. We simply are not there yet, not by any means. Lots of proving to do.

play2win
Senior Member

11 years ago

#30

Does that stat take into account games where he did get the lead in the 4th quarter only to have the defense piss it away.

Originally Posted by: sschind

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/best-and-worst-quarterback-records-the-clutch-adjusted-for-strength-schedule/18941/

As you mentioned, the D has the capability to piss games away with great regularity (since the 2011 KC loss), and I think this statistical listing unfairly points to the QBs. How much of it revolves around missed FGs, or blown leads by the D, or poor play calling by the HC or OC, or game mismanagement, etc? It all factors in.

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