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texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

I can't type fast enough to chat, so I will put my accumulated thoughts here.

These were the two best teams in the NFL, and in a lot of ways, we out played 'em. The blown replay of 3rd down by the refs is a convenient excuse, but the turnovers and bonehead plays by Ross on the returns were the real keys. I would not be at all surprised to see Ross cut before next week.

I am a lot more optimistic about our front seven than I was before. Raji, Pickett, B. Jones, and Hawk, probably my four least favorite Packers, all played decent football. The safeties were disappointing, and Hyde didn't seem to do much.

The Packers O Line was hot and cold, mostly cold. After looking downright pathetic early, they seemed to wear down the Niners briefly. However, in the end, five of them couldn't even keep 3 pass rushers out long enough for a decent hail mary.

Some of McCarthy's strategy really pisses me off. Coming out and "establishing the run" - or rather trying and failing - just wasted a couple of series that Rodgers could have used. Then doing the same in the second half was like the definition of crazy - expecting a different outcome. Also, benching Lacy for the rest of the half instead of a play or two was an overreaction IMO.

All things considered, I am optimistic for the season - we shoulda beat the other best team in football at their house; The good things should only get better, and the mistakes shouldn't get repeated.

One more thought: 6 or 7 years ago - whatever it was, I am on record as saying take Davis, not Hawk.

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steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

Hyde didn't seem to do much.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

I wish Jennings and Mcmillian wouldn't have seemed to do much but they were unfortunately involved in what seemed like 90% of the defensive plays.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

11 years ago

This Dom Capers defense seems to always have someone open over the middle and no adjustments made to stop it. Remember the '09 Cardinals playoff game? That's what this reminded me of.

yooperfan
Veteran Member

11 years ago

This Dom Capers defense seems to always have someone open over the middle and no adjustments made to stop it. Remember the '09 Cardinals playoff game? That's what this reminded me of.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Yeah, but we should know by now Dom doesn't adjust well during the course of a game.
Very frustrating!

texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

This Dom Capers defense seems to always have someone open over the middle and no adjustments made to stop it. Remember the '09 Cardinals playoff game? That's what this reminded me of.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I still can't make up my mind about the Capers system. What you say is true, and whether that was a scheme problem or bad play by Jennings and McMillian, I don't know.

The key to me, though, is where would we be without the Capers crap? We just don't seem to have the personnel to go head to head, no scheming and scamming. I think if we were plain vanilla, we'd have no pass rush at all and very little run-stopping ability. And while more zone might seem to mean better coverage, with no pass rush, it wouldn't work.

If you need to scheme scam and scramble by necessity, it's inevitable that something is gonna be open, I guess. Capers just needs to keep 'em guessing and have the openings where they do the least harm.

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DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

11 years ago

I hate making excuses but this san fran team is REALLY farging hard to defend. That being said. We are the team in transition still. We should technically be further behind them than we were. We will improve our running game and defense over the course of the year I have no doubt.

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gbguy20
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11 years ago

The safeties fucking suck.

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sschind
Senior Member

11 years ago

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

What blown replay of the third down. Are you referring to the offsetting personal fouls that should have made it 4th instead of replaying 3rd? Also, if they had blown the whistle for delay like they should have Lacy's fumble never would have happened. I know though, the offense usually get about a half second benefit of the doubt. I've seen it that close a lot of times and it doesn't get called.

They ran the ball 17 times. Do you want them to pass on every single down? Lacy did better than Gore and he showed flashes of what I think we can expect. Against lesser defenses and late in the game if we can wear down the defense I think he will be gold.

I agree that the benching for the half was an overreaction. Hopefully he isn't as bad as Coughlin was last year when Wilson fumbled in game 1. He hardly played the rest of the year. At least MM went back to Lacy. I never understood it when you take your best option at the position out of the game for a single mistake. We will see if he reacts to Ross' mental errors in the return game the way he did to Lacy's fumble. I hope so.

I won't say we should have won but we certainly could have. We played well enough to win but so did the 49ers. We simply made too many mistakes and they capitalized on them. Hopefully the mental ones can be worked out quickly.

Overall I am disappointed of course. I'm extremely frustrated at our pass coverage and third down performance although we did make a few nice stands. I was impressed with the run D and the containment of Kaepernick.

Offensively I think we will be fine. We put up 28 against a damn good defense we just need to act rather than react (score first not score to match them ) but that is on the defense for letting them score in the first place.

gbguy20
Veteran Member

11 years ago

I agree that the benching for the half was an overreaction. Hopefully he isn't as bad as Coughlin was last year when Wilson fumbled in game 1. He hardly played the rest of the year.

Originally Posted by: sschind

The funniest part of this is Wilson just fumbled again. hauhauah

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nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

#10

The Packers once again shit themselves multiple times, and it cost them a game.

Two turnovers, one in the red zone. That in and of itself was enough to cost us this game.

The defense was left out on the field for 40 of the 60 minutes and did wear down in the end. They also left Boldin uncovered for most of the day, and occasionally Vern Davis too.

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