dhpackr
11 years ago
I thought the only major injury was Bulaga, Cobb was a minor injury, Jordy is 4-6 weeks, but its a knee problem that has been nagging since college, and was not a major injury, and neal is ready to practice.

we have not lost a game due to injury yet, so I am not so concerned...
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11 years ago



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play2win
11 years ago

The excuses from people are laughable. Please don't blame it on anyone except football and football itself. I don't even wanna read everyones individuals opinions on this topic because it's the same thing over and over, preached in every packer forum. Probably every team forum there is.

This is the time of year everyone is returning to football. Players are just starting to run, jump, and hit eachother. There's gonna be injury's right now more than ever.

Sure blame staff blah, blah, blah. There's no one person out there that has a magical mind and hands to prevent these things. I don't know anything about the S&C coaches, they probably aren't the greatest in the league, but they can't prevent guys falling over on each other, they can't prevent guys tripping/falling during football drills, even if you enforce it, they can't tell players that you can't move this way you can't move that way. I mean come on...

I know it's frustrating but get over it people.

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon 



I know what you are saying, but I cannot buy into that. Not at all.

How many TCs have I followed as an ardent fan? Quite a few. Mike McCarthy is VERY slow to change, to a fault. It is his own staff problems that are allowing us to have two or three times the injuries of some other teams, completely unaddressed.

Amazingly, this was a point of emphasis at their season's end review. I'm not seeing ANY serious changes made to address this.
Gaycandybacon
11 years ago

I know what you are saying, but I cannot buy into that. Not at all.

How many TCs have I followed as an ardent fan? Quite a few. Mike McCarthy is VERY slow to change, to a fault. It is his own staff problems that are allowing us to have two or three times the injuries of some other teams, completely unaddressed.

Amazingly, this was a point of emphasis at their season's end review. I'm not seeing ANY serious changes made to address this.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



He actually changes it every year according to him. I won't mind bringing in some other guys if injures continue to happen during the season. But honestly I don't think it's gonna matter. They give their players plenty of rest if they're injured, I don't know how it's the staffs fault though besides bringing in players that have injure issues.
Pack93z
11 years ago

I don't know how it's the staffs fault though besides bringing in players that have injure issues.

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon 



Here is my take.. injuries like Bulaga.. I will agree with you, there is not much a staff is going to do to prevent those. As far as I know, there hasn't been a comprehensive study to try and correlate why ACL/ligament tears occur. The reasons probably vary greatly from individual player to player.

But it is the hamstring/muscle pull type injuries that concern a fan.. at least me. Or weight lifting injuries that we have seen, most notable that I can think of was Harrell. Some of that most definitely falls on the player themselves in getting themselves ready via stretching / routine, but that also falls on the staff that are to ensure that the players are keeping and getting themselves ready.

Even with the restrictions the players wanted in the last CBA, the players are in town, under the care of the staff enough throughout the year that there should be no way we have players repeatedly having pull type / conditioning type injuries; at least to the frequency we do.

How many games have we lost over the last couple years because of those type injuries... players like Matthews seem to miss games each year because of them.

Here is 2012:

Week One:
Francois, Robert LB Hamstring LP LP LP Probable
Richardson, Sean S Hamstring DNP LP LP Probable

Week Two:
Jennings, Greg WR Groin DNP DNP DNP Doubtful
Wilson, C.J. DE Groin DNP LP LP Questionable

Week Three:
Cobb, Randall WR Hamstring LP LP FP Probable
Jennings, Greg WR Groin DNP LP LP Questionable
Richardson, Sean S Hamstring - LP LP Questionable
Wilson, C.J. DE Groin LP LP LP Questionable

Week Four:
Jennings, Greg WR Groin LP LP LP Probable
Richardson, Sean S Hamstring DNP DNP DNP Out

Week Five:
Jennings, Greg WR Groin DNP Out Out Out
Richardson, Sean S Hamstring DNP DNP DNP Out

Week Six:
Jennings, Greg WR Groin DNP DNP DNP Out
Richardson, Sean S Hamstring DNP DNP DNP Out
Williams, D.J. TE Hamstring - DNP LP Questionable

Week Seven:
Jennings, Greg WR Groin DNP DNP DNP Out
Richardson, Sean S Hamstring LP LP FP Probable
Williams, D.J. TE Hamstring LP FP FP Probable

Week Eight:
Jennings, Greg WR Groin DNP Out Out Out
Kuhn, John FB Hamstring DNP DNP DNP Out
Nelson, Jordy WR Hamstring LP DNP DNP Questionable

Week Nine:
Jennings, Greg WR Groin/Abdomen Out Out Out Out
Kuhn, John FB Hamstring DNP DNP DNP Out
Nelson, Jordy WR Hamstring DNP DNP DNP Questionable

Week Eleven:
Jennings, Greg WR Groin / Abdomen Out Out Out Out
Kuhn, John FB Hamstring LP LP LP Probable
Matthews, Clay LB Hamstring Out Out Out Out
Nelson, Jordy WR Hamstring / Foot LP LP LP Probable
Williams, D.J. TE Hamstring FP FP FP Probable

Week Twelve:
Kuhn, John FB Hamstring LP LP LP Probable
Matthews, Clay LB Hamstring DNP DNP DNP Out

Week Thirteen:
Jennings, Greg WR Groin / Abdomen FP FP FP Probable
Matthews, Clay LB Hamstring DNP DNP DNP Out
Pickett, Ryan DT Quadricep DNP LP FP Probable

Week Fourteen:
Matthews, Clay LB Hamstring DNP DNP DNP Out
Nelson, Jordy WR Hamstring DNP DNP DNP Out

Week Fifteen:
Matthews, Clay LB Hamstring LP LP FP Probable
Nelson, Jordy WR Hamstring DNP DNP DNP Out

Week Sixteen:
Crabtree, Tom TE Hamstring DNP DNP DNP Out
Nelson, Jordy WR Hamstring DNP DNP DNP Out
Worthy, Jerel DE Hamstring DNP DNP LP Questionable

Week Seventeen:
Crabtree, Tom TE Hamstring FP FP FP Probable
Nelson, Jordy WR Hamstring FP FP FP Probable
Worthy, Jerel DE Hamstring LP FP FP Probable

WildCard:
Finley, Jermichael TE Quadricep LP FP FP Probable

Divisional:
Finley, Jermichael TE Hamstring FP FP FP Probable
Moses, Dezman LB Hamstring LP FP FP Probable


Are those all the strength coach completely? No, but it is a recurring issue under this group. And that, IMO, the staff does have some culpability in that.
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