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Today's induction of the 2013 Pro Football Hall of Fame includes these players: Larry Allen, Cris Carter, Curley Culp, Jonathan Ogden, Bill Parcells, Dave Robinson, and Warren Sapp. The words are gushing for all of these players, including former Green Bay Packers linebacker Robinson. They have all had remarkable careers; everyone believes these are players who, in the minds of most, deserve to be inducted into the Hall of Fame.

But there are others, many others, who are not enshrined – and when you look at most lists of “those players who deserve to be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame,” it’s former Packers guard Jerry Kramer who tops the list.

Why he does not yet have a bust in Canton is one of those mysteries – like the Bermuda Triangle, like the Loc Ness Monster, like bigfoot – that may never be answered.

That is unless the electors who vote players into the hall get off their dead asses and start thinking clearly.

You’ve got Warren Sapp going in to Hall today as a first ballot selection over the likes of Ken Anderson? Kenny Stabler? Alex Karras? Jerry Kramer?

As in the words of Kramer’s longtime coach, the great Vince Lombardi: “What the Hell is going on out here?”

We ask the same question and draw our attention to those who feel the same way – most notably Kramer’s daughter, Alicia, who has been spearheading the drive to get her father elected to the Hall.

LombardiAve  wrote:




this one is for PackerTraxx.

I won't say Jerry wasn't a great player nor that he doesn't belong in the Hall but as a man I don't care what happens to him.

my only brush with Jerry was a few years ago he had a table set up in the packing lot at Stadium View Lounge. He was selling his book and autograph. I walked over when he was talking to one of his handlers and he ignored me. I moved to a place where he could see me better and when he had a chance I was going to say something then head into the stadium. When ever I move he turned the opposite direction so that he had his back to me. After a minute or so one of the other handlers informed me if I wanted to talk to Jerry I had to buy his book.

I was a little bit stunned but not much. I realize that he has been swamped by people coming up to him for 50 years. But there was no one around. It wouldn't have hurt him to simply say hello to another human.

I looked at the handler and said no thank you. All I wanted to tell Jerry was that I was glad he finally got his Super Bowl ring back but if I have to pay to say that I won't.

I have not respected the man ever since. Even over the music that was blaring he heard me. He still could have said thanks or he appreciates it. I was nothing more than a pay check to him so he can keep his book and autograph.
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