Zero2Cool
11 years ago

GREEN BAY, Wis. -- For a guy who was once cut the day before his $10 million salary would have been guaranteed, A.J. Hawk didn't really have much trouble accepting another pay cut this offseason to remain with the Green Bay Packers. Discussing the move for the first time on Friday, Hawk explained why he didn't fight a nearly $2 million reduction in pay for 2013 and a total of $7.25 million less over the remaining three years of what was originally a five-year, $33.

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Zero2Cool
11 years ago

Green Bay — Pay cuts are a sensitive subject. Every off-season, proud veterans are asked to take less money or, promptly, shown the door.

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beast
11 years ago

I don't know if he's peaking or not, but I felt like the Packers used him in a different role last season and that role better suited his talents. He DL seem to ask to protect the ILBers more and let the ILBers roam free and get to the ball carrier. Of course most LBers look better not having to deal with OL as much.

But it does sounds like Lattimore is stepping up and there has been slight hype around Manning this last year since fining out that played through last training cam pinjured, but I haven't heard if he's playing up to the hype or not.
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Tezzy
11 years ago
Team player. I know many people have always wanted more flashy stats out of his draft position. When it comes to being a professional, this guy is top notch.
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DarkaneRules
11 years ago

I don't know if he's peaking or not, but I felt like the Packers used him in a different role last season and that role better suited his talents. He DL seem to ask to protect the ILBers more and let the ILBers roam free and get to the ball carrier. Of course most LBers look better not having to deal with OL as much.

But it does sounds like Lattimore is stepping up and there has been slight hype around Manning this last year since fining out that played through last training cam pinjured, but I haven't heard if he's playing up to the hype or not.

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The group thinned last night. With Lattimore and Jones both out due to illness and injury. In their absence, Barrington was in with the ones. I wonder what the inside LB position will look like come the first pre-season game?
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11 years ago
Hawk is one of the players people like to kick around. He does a decent job. Everyone wants him to be a great player and it just isn't going to happen. If they use him to his strengths it will work out.
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olds70supreme
11 years ago

Hawk is one of the players people like to kick around. He does a decent job. Everyone wants him to be a great player and it just isn't going to happen.



I agree. He isn't as flashy as a lot of people would like him to be but he gets the job done in a workmanlike fashion, doesn't cause undue trouble on the field (penalties) or off (Johnny Law). He is, as people like to say, "Packer People". That being said, it would be nice if some of the younger up-and-comers would give him serious competition for his job. It would be nice if, when he is replaced, it was more due to the talent of the other player rather than an age or salary cap reason.
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11 years ago
yep. I have no problem if someone steps up and beats him out for most of the snaps.
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