texaspackerbacker
11 years ago
There's a lot of truth to the idea that the Packers defense stunk that day, and it needed some criticism from within. However, Kaepernick seemed damn good - a significant level above Griffin, Wilson, etc. in terms of speed and durability, while being at least as good a passer. We need to stop him first, before putting him down.
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Rockmolder
11 years ago
That doesn't come like a big surprise when you're letting a QB run over you for the single-game QB rushing record.

You'd like to think that that's a point where a player like Woodson comes in and settles things down, though. Might've factored in in not taking him back. When you're on the decline like he is, your leadership skills, intangibles and savvyness get you through the game.

Although it's very bad, I don't you can read that much into it. When you have a defense with one of the best OLBs, a future HoF DB and a lot of guys who where with us when we had one of the better defenses for a short period of time not too long ago, coupled with a complete trashing after a 11-4 regular season, which came a year after the beatdown against the Giants after a 15-1 season, there's really all too much reason to get frustrated.

Might not be the best way to handle it, but it's at least somewhat understandable.
DarkaneRules
11 years ago
While I totally expect that, to be so glib about it kind of smacks of arrogance. Keep it in house. Other position groups can be a little more vocal about this stuff but usually QBs have to maintain more composure discussing things like this, but then again, his coach certainly doesn't so why should he. Starts at the top and that coach leads by an example of being loud and brash... about everything.
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DoddPower
11 years ago

That doesn't come like a big surprise when you're letting a QB run over you for the single-game QB rushing record.

You'd like to think that that's a point where a player like Woodson comes in and settles things down, though. Might've factored in in not taking him back. When you're on the decline like he is, your leadership skills, intangibles and savvyness get you through the game.

Although it's very bad, I don't you can read that much into it. When you have a defense with one of the best OLBs, a future HoF DB and a lot of guys who where with us when we had one of the better defenses for a short period of time not too long ago, coupled with a complete trashing after a 11-4 regular season, which came a year after the beatdown against the Giants after a 15-1 season, there's really all too much reason to get frustrated.

Might not be the best way to handle it, but it's at least somewhat understandable.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



The Packers defense could use more leadership, for sure.

dhpackr
11 years ago

The Packers defense could use more leadership, for sure.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I don't get why didn't capers change the scheme and put a spy on Kaepernick in the second half.? Weran the same scheme the entire game, and it was not working.


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DoddPower
11 years ago

I don't get why didn't capers change the scheme and put a spy on Kaepernick in the second half.? Weran the same scheme the entire game, and it was not working.

Originally Posted by: dhpackr 



I don't know, I've read that Dom Capers tried everything at his disposal. That does seem hard to believe, but it's probably true. It was just a combination of poor preparation, coaching, and a relative lack of talent on defense. I would have to think that a good defensive coordinator could have at least contained their offense a little better, and we saw that at times throughout the rest of the playoffs. The Baltimore defense was more talented, but were they truly THAT much more talented than the Packers, especially after losing Ngata? If nothing else, they were as slow, or slower, than the Packers defense. They were undoubtedly tougher and had better leadership, though, so maybe that made all the difference. Although, the 49'ers did seem to move the ball on offense very well in the 2nd half of the Super Bowl.
dhpackr
11 years ago
[quote=DoddPower;251386 They were undoubtedly tougher and had better leadership, though, so maybe that made all the difference.



since we lost nick collins, not sure who the qb for the defense is?
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steveishere
11 years ago

I don't know, I've read that Dom Capers tried everything at his disposal. That does seem hard to believe, but it's probably true. It was just a combination of poor preparation, coaching, and a relative lack of talent on defense. I would have to think that a good defensive coordinator could have at least contained their offense a little better, and we saw that at times throughout the rest of the playoffs. The Baltimore defense was more talented, but were they truly THAT much more talented than the Packers, especially after losing Ngata? If nothing else, they were as slow, or slower, than the Packers defense. They were undoubtedly tougher and had better leadership, though, so maybe that made all the difference. Although, the 49'ers did seem to move the ball on offense very well in the 2nd half of the Super Bowl.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I would have to thin that a good defensive coordinator wouldn't have been that horribly unprepared for a playoff game to begin with.
DarkaneRules
11 years ago
With Kap and even Rodgers, keeping contain is CRITICAL. We didn't do that.
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blueleopard
11 years ago
We did have a spy on Kaepernick.

Unfortunately it was Erik Walden.
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