beast
11 years ago

Last year the Rams played well, probably better than most, against her 49ers and Seahawks. I think part of this was that their defensive front got better penetration to mess things up in the backfield (Gore is not a make you miss guy and James is not a tackle breaker) and because their secondary sucked they played a lot of zone. Baltimore played much the same way.

Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 



One of the rams defenders talked about that and said the key was simple controlling the edges of the defense, saying their DEs kicked the 49ers OT butt...

Where the Packers edge guys DE/OLB got their butts kicked against the 49ers.

Matthews held his own but the DE to his side didn't making him do more than his role which open up a hole in his lane.

Pickett held his own but he doesn't have the quickness nor speed to stop the edge run to the outside where Walden was HORRIBLE.


Writing this makes me wonder.... if Picket and Matthews were on the same side, would they of been able to shut down that side? ... forcing the 49ers to go to the other side / middle where the defense could attempt to load up on? Just a thought...
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play2win
11 years ago
He's a 2nd round pick. #19 in R2. He must produce. Had a difficult start, but was making some progress. All I want is to see him progress next season. Not pushing for him to play at all this year. Give him a year post surgery, and see what the kid can really do. I'm hopeful. I like him. He's shown virtually nothing thusfar to be honest... I was disappointed with his 2012.
brandland
11 years ago
i think next year when he is at 100% he will be better than he was last year. he has the right size and he did get 2 sacks i think . that offense the niners put on us was never used til that game . they knew if they went in and played like they did with smith their new qb would not have been able to stay up with rodgers. they studied our defense and then the coach went into his old stanford playbook and unleashed it. i just dont think it will work this time around with crabtree out and gore questionable. who knows we may go in ready for the read option and they go to old fashion football
nerdmann
11 years ago

i think next year when he is at 100% he will be better than he was last year. he has the right size and he did get 2 sacks i think . that offense the niners put on us was never used til that game . they knew if they went in and played like they did with smith their new qb would not have been able to stay up with rodgers. they studied our defense and then the coach went into his old stanford playbook and unleashed it. i just dont think it will work this time around with crabtree out and gore questionable. who knows we may go in ready for the read option and they go to old fashion football

Originally Posted by: brandland 



Kaepernick is gonna get concussed, and that will be the end of the Read Option.
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DarkaneRules
11 years ago
Nerdmann haha...

Anyway I am actually looking more at Neal and Daniels this year to contribute but look to be pleasantly surprised if Worthy makes some positive noise.
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PackerTraxx
11 years ago
I would like to see us get a couple more big 3-4 DEs. Then move Worthy to nose if he can put on the weight and get the job done.
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Mucky Tundra
11 years ago

Kaepernick is gonna get concussed, and that will be the end of the Read Option.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Agreed. I'm tired of people saying about Kaepernick and Wilson of Seattle, "Oh they're not running QBs like Vick, they avoid contact by sliding and getting out of bounds, they're smart etc." All it takes is the one time they do go for the first down instead of getting out of bounds, one James Harrison like cheap shot, one play where the defender comes in for a tackle before the QB got down for the slide and that'll be it.


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DarkaneRules
11 years ago
In all fairness doesn't Aaron Rodgers already have two in his Pro career? That being said we have a superbowl win 🙂
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nerdmann
11 years ago

In all fairness doesn't Aaron Rodgers already have two in his Pro career? That being said we have a superbowl win :)

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 



Yeah and guess what. We don't run the Read Option.
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago
Extremely important. Get him back on the field!!
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