go.pack.go.
16 years ago
McCarthy doesn't fire the other coaches does he? Doesn't Ted Thompson do that?
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all_about_da_packers
16 years ago

McCarthy doesn't fire the other coaches does he? Doesn't Ted Thompson do that?

"go.pack.go." wrote:



No, the coach is responsible for that.
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all_about_da_packers
16 years ago

I don't think that McCarthy will fire Sanders/Stock. He's a first time head coach, and I think he's going to keep them on staff out of a show of loyalty to his subordinates.

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And what on earth suggests that? It's nothing more than a WAY WAY out there guess.

A lot of people, including me, criticized McCarthy for hiring Kurt Schott. as the DB coach, saying it was nothing more than McCarthy doing a favour to the guy who broke him into the coaching ranks, Marty Schott.

A lot of people dismissed it as simply a move where McCarthy brought on someone who was loyal to him, one of "his guys".

Entering year 3 of Kurt Schott. as DBs coach era, can anyone really argue with that move? Kurt has helped develop a pro-bowler in Nick Collins, and last year he developed a heck of a SS in Atari Bigby, who had the numbers to merit pro-bowl consideration.

My point: If McCarthy chooses not to fire Sanders/Stock, it won't be because he is being loyal to "his guys", it is because he thinks those coaches are good enough to lead this team to a win.

After last year's 14-4 season, can't really argue with him on that point...
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Packnic
16 years ago

I don't think that McCarthy will fire Sanders/Stock. He's a first time head coach, and I think he's going to keep them on staff out of a show of loyalty to his subordinates.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:




And what on earth suggests that? It's nothing more than a WAY WAY out there guess.

A lot of people, including me, criticized McCarthy for hiring Kurt Schott. as the DB coach, saying it was nothing more than McCarthy doing a favour to the guy who broke him into the coaching ranks, Marty Schott.

A lot of people dismissed it as simply a move where McCarthy brought on someone who was loyal to him, one of "his guys".

Entering year 3 of Kurt Schott. as DBs coach era, can anyone really argue with that move? Kurt has helped develop a pro-bowler in Nick Collins, and last year he developed a heck of a SS in Atari Bigby, who had the numbers to merit pro-bowl consideration.

My point: If McCarthy chooses not to fire Sanders/Stock, it won't be because he is being loyal to "his guys", it is because he thinks those coaches are good enough to lead this team to a win.

After last year's 14-4 season, can't really argue with him on that point...

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minnypacker
16 years ago
We can say it's not Bush's fault, but whay have there been so many mistakes and misses throughout the year that he has been involved in. One time - accident, two times - Okay, three times - what the heck......8 times - come on!
gbpfan
16 years ago
I think some blame has to go to the players,they are the ones that are on the field.Coaches give a play player doesn't play the call fails to tackle gives up on the guy they are covering,they need to be accountable.
brnt247
16 years ago

We can say it's not Bush's fault, but whay have there been so many mistakes and misses throughout the year that he has been involved in. One time - accident, two times - Okay, three times - what the heck......8 times - come on!

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When else has Bush messed up? I see him make almost as many special teams tackles as Blackmon does. He's a very good gunner on our punt team and usually blocks well on returns. I certainly haven't seen him mess up too much on special teams at least. He hasn't gotten many opportunities on defense, but if Rouse keeps blowing coverages like he has been maybe he will.
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porky88
16 years ago
The special teams and defense have been way disappointing this year after they were so good last year. It's not a coincidence that the Packers are going to end up with double digit losses this season.

I think along with Bob Sanders, Mike Stock should go.

As for Jarrett Bush. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I don't fault him for playing football, but I also think he's not worth keeping if he can't be an effective player on defense or special teams.

Who would of thought that the Packers would have missed Frank Walker? :lol:
Yerko
16 years ago
As much as I do not want to make excuses and such after a game like yesterday, Bush was not at fault for that ball hitting him. He was in position to make a block on a punt. The punt fell behind him. In the replay you see Blackmon waving him off and as soon as you see that Bush begins to fall, being blocked into the ball.

Ball took a bounce...nothing B ush could have done different other than what he was doing before (his job). It would be nonsense to blame him for that ball hitting him.

Now if he was being pushed and ignored the call, I would call for his head!
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macbob
16 years ago

We can say it's not Bush's fault, but whay have there been so many mistakes and misses throughout the year that he has been involved in. One time - accident, two times - Okay, three times - what the heck......8 times - come on!

"brnt247" wrote:



When else has Bush messed up? I see him make almost as many special teams tackles as Blackmon does. He's a very good gunner on our punt team and usually blocks well on returns. I certainly haven't seen him mess up too much on special teams at least. He hasn't gotten many opportunities on defense, but if Rouse keeps blowing coverages like he has been maybe he will.

"minnypacker" wrote:



Bush made more penalties on ST than I would have liked to see, though he has improved in that toward the end of the year.
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