Porforis
11 years ago

If you don't know what #14 means, turn in your Packers gear, now.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Well, we were talking about statistics and run/pass performance in general, when you throw a number out there that lies close to the middle of 1 and 32 is it really that unreasonable to assume that you're talking about ranking?
DakotaT
11 years ago

I just want #14 ...

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



You can wish in one hand and crap in the other and see what gets filled first.

Don't we all want #14? [grin1]
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DoddPower
11 years ago

Well, we were talking about statistics and run/pass performance in general, when you throw a number out there that lies close to the middle of 1 and 32 is it really that unreasonable to assume that you're talking about ranking?

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Zero bitches at people and calls them lazy for not typing first names and such when it's completely obvious who they are referencing, but then gives you a hard time for not knowing he was talking about another championship. 😳 😳 😳

Good times.
DakotaT
11 years ago

Zero bitches at people and calls them lazy for not typing first names and such when it's completely obvious who they are referencing, but then gives you a hard time for not knowing he was talking about another championship. 😳 😳 😳

Good times.

Originally Posted by: doddpower 



In my case, I am lazy. That, or I give too much credit for people being on the same wave lengths as I am.
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DoddPower
11 years ago

In my case, I am lazy. That, or I give too much credit for people being on the same wave lengths as I am.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



A lazy liberal?? NEVER!!! [boxing] [boxing] [boxing]

DakotaT
11 years ago

A lazy liberal?? NEVER!!! [boxing] [boxing] [boxing]

Originally Posted by: doddpower 



FU, I am not a liberal - I am a scorned ex-Republican.

You know what the problem with the masters of markup is - they actually think what they do is work.

Anyway, back to Zero being a bitch...
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago

Well, we were talking about statistics and run/pass performance in general, when you throw a number out there that lies close to the middle of 1 and 32 is it really that unreasonable to assume that you're talking about ranking?

Originally Posted by: Porforis 






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gbguy20
11 years ago

Agreeing with DakotaT? We must be talking about football!

I really don't have a problem pointing out specific areas/people that need improvement. The problem is when you're bringing up "the run game" (Is it the RBs, scheme, line, playcalls, timing, or all of the above?) or "Holding onto the ball for too long" that is far too complex of an issue to chalk up to one or two individual problems. Part of it is Rodgers. A large part of it is the O line. A large part of it is people not getting open earlier. And stats of how long he holds onto the ball doesn't examine how often he's making completions versus taking a sack, WHEN he's taking most of the sacks (is 3rd and long in punting range the end of the world to take a sack on if you've got a 50-50 shot of getting a first down if you find someone open?). Only when you clearly break down all of these factors without turning it into a "what-if" party can you really tell who is at fault, and if Rodgers holding onto it sometimes is really a bad thing considering all the times he DOES escape pressure and turns it into a run for a first down or a completion.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Line is getting beat often + people are not getting open fast enough = call plays with shorter, quick routes & throw short passes.

Blame = McCarthy forgetting about the fucking slant and Rodgers ignoring wide open short routes in favor of long routes.
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nerdmann
11 years ago

Line is getting beat often + people are not getting open fast enough = call plays with shorter, quick routes & throw short passes.

Blame = McCarthy forgetting about the fucking slant and Rodgers ignoring wide open short routes in favor of long routes.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Time of possession=wearing down the DL.
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OlHoss1884
11 years ago
I think it's a combination of things. First and foremost, to be honest, is the lack of a run game. It affects the personnel the defense has on the field (rushers vs. run stoppers) it limits play calling and our RB's have not been good at picking up blitzes. In addition, anyone who has played OL will tell you their lives are much easier when they can do some run blocking as opposed to having to back up and absorb the rush al the time.

Aside from the line shuffling and adding a litle more depth there, the running game will make a huge difference as will the TE play ffrom Finely if it's more like the second half of the year than it was like the first.

I see fewer 3rd and longs this year and thus more sustained drives and thus more points and a more effective defense. I predict that instead of ranking 13th/11th on O and D that it will be more like 4th/6th this year.
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