MintBaconDrivel
11 years ago

The Datone Jones pick so far has gotten mixed reviews. Granted, it still is quite early, the defensive end has been called by some as undersized and too slow, lacking a quick first step. Some have even said the position altogether could have been addressed in the later rounds and that selecting a safety probably [...]

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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago
What I say is there is a whole world of football out there beyond Colin Kaepernick. We got Datone Jones for a variety of reasons, primarily a reprise of Cullen Jenkins in the pass rush aspect, as well as more speed and mobility against the run in general. He will probably help a lot against the read option also, but that first step and speed mentioned sounds more like an OLB or a 4-3 DE. It will take a whole village of players to stop Kaepernick, Griffin, etc. - the read option. That's Capers job to design the solution - hopefully better than he did the last time.
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OlHoss1884
11 years ago
Specifically, his ability to pressure the passer from a D-Line spot leaves the defense able to either a) put a spy on the QB or b) use zone coverage, where the DB's don't keep their backs to the line of scrimmage. His ability to stay on the field in the nickle and dime allows more athleticism there, too. Stopping the read option really requires a lot of discipline by the defense, especially for whoever is designated to smack the QB. Jones (as a prospect, at least) is veraatile and athletic enough to allow the rest of the defense to play the read option better when he isn't disrupting it himself.
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Dulak
11 years ago
No he wont be the answer to the read option ... might help

we need better LBers to stop the read option ... no brad jones's type ...

Need pressure up the middle and to secure the ends ... bishop CM3 and dantone will help ...
nerdmann
11 years ago

No he wont be the answer to the read option ... might help

we need better LBers to stop the read option ... no brad jones's type ...

Need pressure up the middle and to secure the ends ... bishop CM3 and dantone will help ...

Originally Posted by: Dulak 



No Brad Jones' type? By that you mean NO ONE WHO CAN COVER?

You want 11 slow thumpers who can only play between the Guards?
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beast
11 years ago

I keep hearing stories connecting Datone Jones to the read-option problem... honestly if Jones was in that 49ers game I don't think he would of changed a thing. In large part, while the DL wasn't doing a good job, it wasn't where the Packers were getting burned the most ether.

The Packers got burned the most on the edges where depending on the call an OLB, ILB or S where suppose to protect the edge and they all failed to do it at one point or the other. As they had to take on a block and at the very least hold their ground and didn't do it. Datone Jones isn't going to be playing those position.

What is more likely going to help the read option problem is

1) having a physical LB like Perry and maybe Bishop back.

2) MM talking about asking to DL to focus in too much on techniques and not enough on going out there and going fully 100% no matter what, screw the techniques just kick their @$$... and talked about switching that some. which I think has been a problem... with those DL you got to keep their energy and desire to keep @$$ up... and I don't think the DL has been on full since Jenkins left, other than maybe Pickett and Daniels... and while I'm a big fan of Pickett he just doesn't have much explosion or pass rush... though he's clearly the best run stopper the Packers have. And Daniels is a big limited with his size but he'll give you all he had on every single play... you got to love that.

3) and having the coaches focused on stopping read option type stuff it in the offseason.
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