Not at all but I will guarantee you that for every player another team takes that you wanted Ted Thompson to take there will be fans bitching and moaning about the pick. Ted Thompson is not a God, never said he was, but I will bet dollars to donuts that he knows a hell of a lot more about the players in the draft than anyone on this site or any site like it. I'll bet he knows a hell of a lot more than pretty much anyone who has ever done a mock draft as well.

You certainly don't have to agree with the picks but everyone who disagrees act's like they have some sort of inside information that proves the guy they wanted will be an all pro while the guy Ted Thompson actually took will suck.

Not all of TT's picks will pan out that is for certain and in some cases the guy you wanted him to take may actually have been a better choice but so many of you act like he is throwing darts at a list of names. What makes you so certain that just because some flunkie at one of a 1000 mock draft sites thinks that the guy Ted Thompson took would have been there 3 rounds later that the team after the Packers wouldn't have taken him?

Everyone has guys on their list that they would like to see and some people actually have reasons behind it but your list and your reasons are no more reliable than TT's and I would dare say they are many many times less.

If Ted Thompson thinks a guy is worth the pick its because he sees something that he thinks the guy can offer. He is not just pulling names out of his ass simply to piss you off. Maybe you can't see it but in the end it really doesn't matter what you can see. It's Teds' list and Teds choice and he is taking the guy he thinks is the best choice at the time.

Originally Posted by: sschind 

It's Teds' list and Teds choice and he is taking the guy he thinks is the best choice at the time.

Not at all but I will guarantee you that for every player another team takes that you wanted Ted Thompson to take there will be fans bitching and moaning about the pick. Ted Thompson is not a God, never said he was, but I will bet dollars to donuts that he knows a hell of a lot more about the players in the draft than anyone on this site or any site like it. I'll bet he knows a hell of a lot more than pretty much anyone who has ever done a mock draft as well.

You certainly don't have to agree with the picks but everyone who disagrees act's like they have some sort of inside information that proves the guy they wanted will be an all pro while the guy Ted Thompson actually took will suck.

Not all of TT's picks will pan out that is for certain and in some cases the guy you wanted him to take may actually have been a better choice but so many of you act like he is throwing darts at a list of names. What makes you so certain that just because some flunkie at one of a 1000 mock draft sites thinks that the guy Ted Thompson took would have been there 3 rounds later that the team after the Packers wouldn't have taken him?

Everyone has guys on their list that they would like to see and some people actually have reasons behind it but your list and your reasons are no more reliable than TT's and I would dare say they are many many times less.

If Ted Thompson thinks a guy is worth the pick its because he sees something that he thinks the guy can offer. He is not just pulling names out of his ass simply to piss you off. Maybe you can't see it but in the end it really doesn't matter what you can see. It's Teds' list and Teds choice and he is taking the guy he thinks is the best choice at the time.

Originally Posted by: sschind 

You don't know me to well, or my profession, huh? :)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Not at all but I will guarantee you that for every player another team takes that you wanted Ted Thompson to take there will be fans bitching and moaning about the pick. Ted Thompson is not a God, never said he was, but I will bet dollars to donuts that he knows a hell of a lot more about the players in the draft than anyone on this site or any site like it. I'll bet he knows a hell of a lot more than pretty much anyone who has ever done a mock draft as well.

You certainly don't have to agree with the picks but everyone who disagrees act's like they have some sort of inside information that proves the guy they wanted will be an all pro while the guy Ted Thompson actually took will suck.

Not all of TT's picks will pan out that is for certain and in some cases the guy you wanted him to take may actually have been a better choice but so many of you act like he is throwing darts at a list of names. What makes you so certain that just because some flunkie at one of a 1000 mock draft sites thinks that the guy Ted Thompson took would have been there 3 rounds later that the team after the Packers wouldn't have taken him?

Everyone has guys on their list that they would like to see and some people actually have reasons behind it but your list and your reasons are no more reliable than TT's and I would dare say they are many many times less.

If Ted Thompson thinks a guy is worth the pick its because he sees something that he thinks the guy can offer. He is not just pulling names out of his ass simply to piss you off. Maybe you can't see it but in the end it really doesn't matter what you can see. It's Teds' list and Teds choice and he is taking the guy he thinks is the best choice at the time.

Originally Posted by: sschind 

Most people are not complaining about who was picked, more about the strategy of trading back this year. Because of Ted doing his job pretty good in the past, the team is at a point where we don't have room for 7-8 rookies on the roster, yet alone 11. The team doesn't improve by replacing young projects with new young projects. There were better quality players available when Ted traded back, there were better quality players that Ted could have traded up for.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 

wow.

I have yet to see anyone on this or any other site including the professional ones like ESPN actually think they know more about than Uncle Ted and the Packer's system or how the Packers evaluate every player.

As for the moaning and groaning that goes on, I suppose you would prefer that fans didn't care what happens. After all we know nothing whatsoever so he should be grateful for anything. There should be no accountability to the fans because we are ignorant. Now go back to 2007. There were plenty of fans that were upset with the Justin Harrell pick. I questioned it but I said, "Hey Uncle Teddy knows what he is doing. He and his staff watched Justin in practice. They sat across the table from him. Those injuries are a thing of the past." Just because we don't know as much as Ted or his people doesn't mean we don't know anything or that we can't think and talk amongst ourselves. After all Ted may be our "Uncle" but we won't get to sit down and discuss any of this with him. Now we can't discuss it with you either.

It is rather silly and condescending for yo to say that you think people expect a draftee will still be avail 3 rounds later. Most of the time people think the player may be 1 round later. On a rare occasion 2 rounds later.

In conclusion I am going to have to write this down and memorize it because I didn't realize it.



I just may have to take my son standing in Afghanistan off my signature and put this one in.

Originally Posted by: wpr 

wow.

I have yet to see anyone on this or any other site including the professional ones like ESPN actually think they know more about than Uncle Ted and the Packer's system or how the Packers evaluate every player.

As for the moaning and groaning that goes on, I suppose you would prefer that fans didn't care what happens. After all we know nothing whatsoever so he should be grateful for anything. There should be no accountability to the fans because we are ignorant. Now go back to 2007. There were plenty of fans that were upset with the Justin Harrell pick. I questioned it but I said, "Hey Uncle Teddy knows what he is doing. He and his staff watched Justin in practice. They sat across the table from him. Those injuries are a thing of the past." Just because we don't know as much as Ted or his people doesn't mean we don't know anything or that we can't think and talk amongst ourselves. After all Ted may be our "Uncle" but we won't get to sit down and discuss any of this with him. Now we can't discuss it with you either.

It is rather silly and condescending for yo to say that you think people expect a draftee will still be avail 3 rounds later. Most of the time people think the player may be 1 round later. On a rare occasion 2 rounds later.

In conclusion I am going to have to write this down and memorize it because I didn't realize it.



I just may have to take my son standing in Afghanistan off my signature and put this one in.

Originally Posted by: wpr 

Maybe its just the way I read things but I have seen plenty of posts and articles that give me the impression that the author thinks they know more than Ted Thompson or any number of GMs. It's not just a Packers thing. Like I said to zero, in another response, you will forgive me if I don't think you are more knowledgeable.

I've said many times that I have no problem with disagreement with or disappointment in TTs picks. I've disagreed with picks and I have been disappointed with picks and I have voiced such in the past. What I don't do is pretend that I know more than the man does because I don't. Again, maybe its just the way I interpret things but a lot of the moaning and groaning that I read about comes from people who do think they know more.

I've seen posts where people say things about a 2nd rounder or a third rounder or a fourth rounder "so and so had them rated in the 6th round" or they could have had him as an undrafted FA. If you can honestly say you have not seen this then you have not been paying attention.

Originally Posted by: sschind 

It's a great point of view.

Lets remember we are all fans of this great team. As fans, we are all limited, except Zero2Cool, to the stuff we watch, read, or hear from connections to the team.

Compounding the situation is Ted's refusal to add some of the higher level FAs, and us fans are putting greater emphasis and energy into each draft.

I question many of his picks, but I'm also thrilled with many of them. Time will tell. I'm super disappointed with some, but willing to trust his system and talents here.

We are today, a far better team than we were on Wednesday. That I know.

Originally Posted by: play2win 

Maybe its just the way I read things but I have seen plenty of posts and articles that give me the impression that the author thinks they know more than Ted Thompson or any number of GMs. It's not just a Packers thing. Like I said to zero, in another response, you will forgive me if I don't think you are more knowledgeable.

I've said many times that I have no problem with disagreement with or disappointment in TTs picks. I've disagreed with picks and I have been disappointed with picks and I have voiced such in the past. What I don't do is pretend that I know more than the man does because I don't. Again, maybe its just the way I interpret things but a lot of the moaning and groaning that I read about comes from people who do think they know more.

I've seen posts where people say things about a 2nd rounder or a third rounder or a fourth rounder "so and so had them rated in the 6th round" or they could have had him as an undrafted FA. If you can honestly say you have not seen this then you have not been paying attention.

Originally Posted by: sschind 

I Was gone all day, just now was able to look and see what Ted did today.
I am willing to bet that Johnson and Dorsey will end up on the PS.
Packers are set at WR with Nelson,Jones Cobb, Boykin and Ross.

LB's Palmer and Barrington both have a good chance of ending up on 53 man roster.

Depending on Perry's health at the beginning of TC, if he is not ready then there will be room for both.

Tackles Baktian and Tretter will have a tough time cracking the 53 man roster, again this depends on the health of Sherrard.

DE's Jones and Boyd,along with RB's Lacey and Franklin IMHO not only will be on the 53 man roster, they all will either start or be in a rotation providing rest for the starters.

CB Micah Hyde will get every shot to make the final roster, he will have only himslf to blame if he ends up on the PS or released.

All in all a pretty productive draft for Ted, anything can happen, but if all play to their potetial, it looks like Ted has beefed up the D-line, vastley improved the RB situation, and added depth to several positions.

Only time will tell if this is an A+ draft or a D draft.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 

I Was gone all day, just now was able to look and see what Ted did today.
I am willing to bet that Johnson and Dorsey will end up on the PS.
Packers are set at WR with Nelson,Jones Cobb, Boykin and Ross.

LB's Palmer and Barrington both have a good chance of ending up on 53 man roster.

Depending on Perry's health at the beginning of TC, if he is not ready then there will be room for both.

Tackles Baktian and Tretter will have a tough time cracking the 53 man roster, again this depends on the health of Sherrard.

DE's Jones and Boyd,along with RB's Lacey and Franklin IMHO not only will be on the 53 man roster, they all will either start or be in a rotation providing rest for the starters.

CB Micah Hyde will get every shot to make the final roster, he will have only himslf to blame if he ends up on the PS or released.

All in all a pretty productive draft for Ted, anything can happen, but if all play to their potetial, it looks like Ted has beefed up the D-line, vastley improved the RB situation, and added depth to several positions.

Only time will tell if this is an A+ draft or a D draft.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 

EDS really that bad that 2 new drafties will beat him out? I thought he played really well at center. Better than Saturday. I think I heard Aaron say once that he was the C of the future during one of his Radio shows. And obviously he took over the last few games at center. Honestly Lang is a solid player as well.. I just think Newhouse needs to be challenged on the Offensive Line and I'll say Newhouse isn't horrible either.. He's going into his 3rd year Starting at LT. He's developing at a ok rate. And wasn't he a 4th or 5th round pick? I'd say he's a decent player in that draft.

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon 

Thank you Gaycandybacon.

I like both EDS and Newhouse. They've both done pretty well. Of course, they've had their whiffs. We've all seen them, moreso with Newhouse. I honestly can't recall a truly bad play by EDS.

Seems all of our linemen will benefit from an emphasis by the staff on run blocking, which can no longer be ignored like I believe it had been previously. Having quality depth now will be refreshing, along with some heightened competition for starting spots. The rookies will get a great opportunity to develop, and I like our OL additions quite a bit with this in mind.

Originally Posted by: play2win 

Most people are not complaining about who was picked, more about the strategy of trading back this year. Because of Ted doing his job pretty good in the past, the team is at a point where we don't have room for 7-8 rookies on the roster, yet alone 11. The team doesn't improve by replacing young projects with new young projects. There were better quality players available when Ted traded back, there were better quality players that Ted could have traded up for.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins