A.J. Hawk on season-ending loss: 'There's nothing you can do but try to get...

MintBaconDrivel
Senior Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

Linebacker A.J. Hawk was interviewed by phone on the NFL Network's "NFL AM" show Thursday morning.

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yooperfan
Veteran Member

11 years ago

Waits for the anti Hawk rhetoric to start.....[aiee]

Pack93z
Select Member

11 years ago

Waits for the anti Hawk rhetoric to start.....[aiee]

Originally Posted by: yooperfan

Probably... but that would be in error as a football player. Expectations and contract stuff aside, Hawk is a good football player. I happen to think he has the physical talent to be better than he is, but even there, that is expecting Hawk to be the same player he was at OSU and the college game where you might have more and better tells pre snap.

That doesn't discount that he is a good football player at the NFL level.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Laser Gunns
Senior Member

11 years ago

Hawk has not been credited with a defended pass or forced turnover in 2 years..

He is not a good LB.. Don't kid yourself.

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FLORIDA PACKER88
Member

11 years ago

Hawk has not been credited with a defended pass or forced turnover in 2 years..

He is not a good LB.. Don't kid yourself.

Originally Posted by: RajiRoar

Blah blah no turnovers blah blah stats blah blah blah blah RABBLE RABBLE #lookingatlimitedportionsofafootballgame #Linebackersarenotfreesafeties . SAME OLD ANTI HAWK SHITE ON A DIFFERENT DAY. Until he gets beat out and replaced he is OBVIOUSLY good enough to start in the NFL.

Pack93z
Select Member

11 years ago

Hawk has not been credited with a defended pass or forced turnover in 2 years..

He is not a good LB.. Don't kid yourself.

Originally Posted by: RajiRoar

I guess those are the only stats that matter.. in your viewpoint.

Top 25 in Tackles

3 sacks are more than Patrick Willis, Derrick Johnson, NaVorro Bowman (Bowman and Willis combined), Posluszny for examples.. other inside (Middle) backers.

I will concede that he is stiff in coverage.. and that he lacks the versatility of many of the blue chips.. but that is also something that a DC can work around. He is not a 3 down backer.. at least in a man coverage situation.. again, I will not argue.

I am not endorsing him as a Pro Bowl player.. he was over hyped a bit coming into the league, but that still doesn't discount he is an effective in the box linebacker.

I wish he was as versatile as the 49ers pair.. where they can leave them on the field in any situation.. Hawk is not that linebacker. Doesn't mean he isn't a good player.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

11 years ago

I have no comment other than.
The guy came into the league as a 4-3 outside LB'r was forced to move to the inside, made himself the best he could,
if that's not good enough for some of you, well just keep:

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

11 years ago

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

He was forced? You mean, no other NFL team was running the 4 - 3 that he could have privately requested a trade to? Weird, I didn't know every team was using 3 - 4. Learn something new everyday. I wonder, just what method did they use to 'FORCE' him to play in the NFL and in the 3 - 4? I sure hope it wasn't a gun ...

A.J. Hawk came out of college as a player that hit his ceiling and was a safe pick. There were lots of rumors the Packers were trying to trade back to add picks and still hoping to land Hawk. That failed and Hawk was their guy so they picked him. He has been what scouts and reports said he would be. Unfortunately, when you're selected in the top 10, you're expected to be a future hall of famer.

Hawk wasn't a bust, isn't a bust and he isn't a "special" player. He's a perennial starter that is assignment sure and should probably take more risks for big plays.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

11 years ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

He had to move to Matt LaFleur when Barnett went down,

that is what I meant by "forced",

even in 2010 he changed from one ilb position to the other when Barnett went down again.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

shield4life
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#10

His the only LB that's in almost every game. His not injury prone and got a lot of experience on is belt. Turnovers aren't only what counts and that's exactly why the management is keeping him around.

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bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

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