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11 years ago

You might be in a rare group if that is what you thought. I think most NFL team fans were hoping to land Reggie White at that time. It was the first year of free agency (I think) and it has changed a lot in 20 years.

Did they have a franchise tag back then?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I was being somewhat factious. Going off the line you used earlier about if a player was so good why would his current team let him leave.
I did think he has getting paid a whole lot more than market value. (Almost double what other teams offered.) But I did think he would instantly make the whole defense better.
As far as franchised player- not. Wiki only shows franchising as far back as 2007.
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flep
11 years ago
To quote the wit and wisdom of a friend (who is a bears fan) who said at the time when I told him........."He's no good, he was double teamed all last season"

Ok then.............................
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I feel very wrong now!!!!!!!!!
Pack93z
11 years ago



Did they have a franchise tag back then?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



The Franchise tag was introduced in 1993.. however White was exempt..
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Pack93z
11 years ago
I had to run out and look up some reference documents to support my above statement in more clarity..

Recently , some of the retired players received an announcement from the NFLPA’s offices about another very old settlement fund finally closing on Feb. 18, 2010. Dee Becker from the NFLPA sent out an announcement about this lawsuit that dates back to 1993 – Reggie White et al vs. NFL et al.
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The lawsuit was significant in that it came in the days before free agency and the 1993 CBA (Collective Bargaining Agreement). Several players were negotiating to move to different teams when their respective owners intervened behind the scenes in an effort to keep them from negotiating with other team owners. Imagine something like that happening today: Brett Favre wants to leave the Green Bay Packers and his agent starts discussions with the Minnesota Vikings. So the owner of the Packers just picks up the phone and calls the owner of the Vikings to dissuade him from doing so. The Packers get to keep Favre’s contract and then make Favre a low-ball offer or simply kick him to the curb with no place to go. And that’s the antitrust game in a nutshell. Unrestricted Free Agency and the CBA have become an integral part of players’ contracts today as a result of battles like Reggie White’s lawsuit. Unfortunately, it also allowed former NFLPA Executive Director Gene Upshaw to pervert the process by negotiating the CBA for the full benefit of the active players while completely neglecting – and stealing from – the retired players. It was all about the money. Of course, it also meant that Superagents like Tom Condon (who just happened to have been sitting on the Disability Board for years and long rumored to have been the real power behind Upshaw’s throne) would get increasingly bigger pieces of those ridiculously sky-high salaries and bonuses that they’ve been negotiating for untested new rookies coming in every year since.



NFL labor timeline: 1987 to 2011 

February 1993. One of the player lawsuits, Reggie White et al vs. NFL et al, works to ensure players can negotiate with owners of other teams without their current owners intervening in the process.

This opens the door for free agency. With the NFLPA re-forming as a union, the players come to a grand compromise with the owners to hammer out the original collective bargaining agreement. In exchange for the right for veteran players to become free agents, the players agree to a hard salary cap. Under terms of the CBA, the combined value of player salaries will be no more than 64 percent of the league revenues.

The new CBA not only is deemed fair to both sides, it leads to competitive balance on the field and helps increase the popularity of the NFL. Considering the league's profitability boom over the past 17 years, along with rapidly rising player salaries, the system works as a win-win situation.


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
mi_keys
11 years ago

Get Doc Brown on the phone and fire up that 1981 DeLorean and drop Teddy in the passenger seat, set the date to 4/8/1993.. this is how you do it. [grin1]

Yes.. I know.. a day early (depending on the version of events), but this way Ted gets to see the entire transaction unfold. lol.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



Thompson was the Packers Director of Pro Personnel in 1993. He already saw it onfold.

...he should probably jump on the former player concussion lawsuit though because it has clearly affected his long-term memory.
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago

I was being somewhat factious. Going off the line you used earlier about if a player was so good why would his current team let him leave.
I did think he has getting paid a whole lot more than market value. (Almost double what other teams offered.) But I did think he would instantly make the whole defense better.
As far as franchised player- not. Wiki only shows franchising as far back as 2007.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Redskins reportedly offered more, but when I fact checked that, they were just a little bit lower than the Packers offer. And as for the "so good why their team let them go" thing. I said that as a thought, not as a 100% concrete statement that if the team that drafted them doesn't want them, that means they are trash. Way too extreme on that assumption.
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