Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago

Seahawks sack Jets' playoff hopes in the snow
Holmgren gets best of former pupil Favre in coach's final game in Seattle

NBCSports.com
updated 2 hours, 18 minutes ago

SEATTLE - Brett Favre spoke softly and shrugged his aging shoulders, saying for perhaps the last time in his legendary career: I dont have all the answers.

Mike Holmgren had some, and took a victory lap through the snow in his last game in Seattle.

If this is Favres kind of weather, then the magic for the three-time MVP quarterback just disappeared with the Jets playoff chances.

Seattles Maurice Morris sliced through the snow like a sled for a season-high 116 yards and John Carlson scored the only touchdown on a short pass from backup Seneca Wallace as the lowly Seahawks ended New Yorks stay atop the AFC East with a 13-3 upset Sunday.

Three points is obviously not enough. There are a lot of reasons for that, Favre said. We are well aware of what opportunities that have been there for us. Thats whats disappointing.

Holmgren, whos taking a sabbatical from football in 2009, walked around the edge of the field with tears in his eyes immediately after the second win in eight games for Seattle (4-11). Green Days Time of Your Life blared over the public-address system amid a weird scene of snowballs pelting down around the 60-year-old coach.

That was the first time in my life that I enjoyed having snowballs thrown at me, Holmgren said.

He and Favre embraced and spoke briefly after the game. Holmgren told the man he brought to Green Bay in 1992 and then made a champion that he wanted to catch catfish with him next year at Favres home in Mississippi.

Pretty special. Ill never forget this day, Holmgren said.

Neither will New York.

Favre came up short when the Jets (9-6) needed him most. Then again, New York has felt that way for a month.

The Jets were 8-3 and an apparent shoo-in for the playoffs. But New York has lost three of four while Favre has thrown just one touchdown pass and six interceptions.

On Sunday, he started 8-for-9 but finished 18-of-31 for 187 yards and two interceptions. He underthrew Coles near the Seahawks 30 in the fourth quarter, and David Clowney earlier when he was 3 yards behind Josh Wilson at the Seahawks 40. That brought to mind questions a 39-year-old passing shoulder is finally betraying Favre.

New York was down 10-3 and started at its own 12 with 3:06 left, but Darryl Tapp sacked Favre on first down. On fourth-and-2, Favre heaved perhaps his longest and best pass of his skittish day. The ball reached Coles in stride at the Seahawks 40, but bounced off his chest and that of defensive back Kelly Jennings before falling to the turf.

Favre trudged off the field emotionless as snowballs thrown by the jubilant fans smacked into the turf near his feet.

Olindo Mare then kicked the clinching field goal.

I left a lot of plays out there that I should have had, Coles said. A lot of blame should be pointed at me. Anytime I have an opportunity to make a play to let us win, I should do that.

For all of Favres renown as a wizard in the cold and snow, hes actually only a whiz in the cold and snow of Green Bay. Favre is now 1-6 in road games played in temperatures of 34 degrees or below Sunday it was 31 degrees. He was 43-6 in such conditions in home games with the Packers.

New York must now beat AFC East co-leading Miami at home next week, and pray. Either New England or Baltimore, also 10-5, must lose for the Jets to get in the playoffs. The Patriots are at Buffalo next week and the Ravens, aiming for the conferences last wild-card spot, host Jacksonville (5-10).

We had everything in front of us and we just didnt take care of business, offensive tackle Damien Woody said. We dont have anybody to blame but ourselves.

The Jets gave away seven potential points on two decisions by coach Eric Mangini. Their lone score came on a 20-yard field goal by Jay Feely to end the opening drive, after Mangini decided against going for it on fourth down with a half-yard to go at the 2 against the leagues 30th-ranked defense.

I anticipated the game being tight, and I thought at that point the important thing would be to get points, Mangini said.

Even Seattles defenders were shocked Mangini didnt go for the touchdown, with linebacker Lofa Tatupu saying, Why wouldnt they?

Favre said: There was no sense in thinking we wouldnt be back there.

But New York never got inside Seattles 27 after that.

That was early in the fourth quarter. The Jets were then inexplicably penalized for delay of game just before Feely made a 45-yard field goal that was good by more than 5 yards. But after the 5-yard penalty, Mangini chose to punt. Feely angrily protested to his coach as he stomped off the snowy field.


Notes:
Carlson made his leaping catch of a 2-yard touchdown pass in the back of the end zone late in the first half with snowflakes and linebacker David Harris hands in his face. The native of Minnesota said hed never before played in snow. His eight-game high school seasons ended by Nov. 1. ... Seattle scored its fewest points in a home win since Nov. 27, 1994, a 10-9 win over Kansas City.


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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
I must confess that it bothers me, when he's thrown 1 TD against 6 INTs and his team has lost 3 of 4 games, that his poor play is blamed on an aging shoulder (which mysteriously didn't affect him last year -- a fact that the media drooled over incessantly), rather than bad decision making.
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DarkaneRules
16 years ago
Call me a wuss...

but I don't like it when Brett Favre is sad 😞
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
dfosterf
16 years ago
Zero put the stream up for the game. We didn't see anything that would indicate a "betraying shoulder". It was just a "Bad Brett" day. Some of his passes were simply gorgeous and classically Brett-like in the speed and accuracy department. Unfortunately , there was also the bad Brett day stuff right with it. For the cigarette smokers, all you need to know is that it was a two-packer. The last int. was him having to press (two score situation, time running out) The play before that he threw one of those that only Brett seems able to, right between/through two defenders. Unfortunately, the receiver couldn't quite hang on to. Jets coaching is as bad as I have seen, imo.
Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago

I don't like it when Brett Favre is sad :(

"DarkaneRules" wrote:



According to the article, he left the field emotionless. :brilsmurf:
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago

Jets coaching is as bad as I have seen, imo.

"dfosterf" wrote:



What! You don't buy into the mystique of the Mangenius??
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dfosterf
16 years ago

Jets coaching is as bad as I have seen, imo.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



What! You don't buy into the mystique of the Mangenius??

"dfosterf" wrote:



The dude is a complete moron. The Jets receivers sucked in this game also. I don't remember how many sacks there were, but I do recall that Brett was trying to buy time on almost all of them. You would have thought that the snowy conditions = advantage receivers, and if it did, they REALLY sucked.
Cheesey
16 years ago
But....he's "Brett Favre"!!!!
He's supposed to "will" his team to a win!!!
Can't the guy win a game in the last 2 minutes???
I mean....it was against the freakin' SEAHAWKS!!! The same team we beat 27-17!

One touchdown and six interceptions........and this is the guy so many people have been saying would have taken us to the playoffs had he been here this year. Why don't those same people now come on and admit he's NOT the "god" they think he is?
I still love Favre, but am sick of the supposed "Packer" fans that took every shot possible at Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy and Rodgers because Favre isn't here anymore.
Now these "fans" will see Favre for what he is. An aging QB that still is ok, but not the super star he once was. On the down side of his career.
Had he been here, i bet we would be no better, or maybe even worse, as Favre would have thrown many more INT's.
It's sad to see a future HOF'er end his career this way.
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
I couldn't agree more, Cheesey. I was furious when he decided to unretire. I knew he wouldn't enjoy the same success he did last season, which would have been the perfect way for him to go out. Now by having a mediocre season, he just looks weak, and the patina has worn off. It was a terrible strategic mistake on his part.

He should have given Michael Jordan a call before he decided to come back. MJ might have been able to talk some sense into him. Legends don't look heroic when they struggle past their prime. They look like they've lost their grip on reality. They look . . . pathetic.
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Orygunfan76
16 years ago
A guy that has thrown 21 tds and 19 ints will have days like that, I just don't understand how he made the Pro Bowl over guys like Philip Rivers, Chad Pennington and Matt Cassel. Oh wait, nevermind, it's because the Pro Bowl is a fucking joke and a popularity contest.
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