MintBaconDrivel
12 years ago

That the Minnesota Vikings were the main suitors for Greg Jennings played no part in the Green Bay Packers' counter-offer to the free-agent receiver.

That wasn’t the reason general manager Ted Thompson wasn’t willing to ante up the $9.5 million per year that Jennings got from the Packers’ NFC North rival.

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rabidgopher04
12 years ago
Combine this with the fact that Jennings said he felt wanted by the Vikings. I know we can't hang on to these guys forever, but you start to wonder if this hampers our ability to attract good players. Guys won't want to come to Green Bay if the Packers have a reputation as being cheap.

I don't see the loss of Jennings as the end of the world, but I think the trend speaks to a larger pattern. I would hate to see the Packers organization have a bad reputation.
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DoddPower
12 years ago

Combine this with the fact that Jennings said he felt wanted by the Vikings. I know we can't hang on to these guys forever, but you start to wonder if this hampers our ability to attract good players. Guys won't want to come to Green Bay if the Packers have a reputation as being cheap.

I don't see the loss of Jennings as the end of the world, but I think the trend speaks to a larger pattern. I would hate to see the Packers organization have a bad reputation.

Originally Posted by: rabidgopher04 




It's a case by case basis. If the Packers offer enough money to a player, than said player won't think the Packers are "cheap." I don't think reputation means much as the actual numbers that are being offered to a given player. I think most players should be able to understand that their wishes and the constraints of an organization might not always align. Although, in the Jennings situation, I think he ended up getting a little less per-season from the Vikings than what the Packers originally offered him. I understand we don't know the length of the contract that was offered by the Packers (it could have only been 2-3 seasons), but the last year or two of most contracts don't mean much anyway.
rabidgopher04
12 years ago
Don't the Packers also have a reputation of offering performance-based contracts? While that seems fair and equitable, if someone is offering you the same or a little less total dollars, but more guaranteed money, wouldn't you take the one with more guaranteed cash? I think most of us in our jobs would give heavy consideration to this. If the work environment is roughly the same between the two choices, knowing you could be fired/cut at any time it just makes sense to go with the guaranteed money instead of the incentive laden offer.
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PackFanWithTwins
12 years ago
The Packers do not use incentives much really. Ted has used them as ways to move money forward in the salary cap, but not really as a means of paying players. But he isn't high on Signing bonuses and guaranteed upfront money. He is more straight forward. Base salary and Roster Bonuses. Which puts more risk on the players, and less on the team. It is a reason, that Packers havent' been in cap hell, and manage an extremely low amount of dead cap money.
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