Sign Elvis Dumervil..quickly!· Page 2

Dulak
Veteran Member

12 years ago

So what we get this year then?

we lose a bunch of good peeps and get nothing?

so woodson and jennings 2 awesome guys and crabtree a real bruiser of a TE (and we keep quarless and williams etc?)

and what do we get these signings? ...
geez - at least if we got jackson we might have a running game; how big is dujuan harris?> 5'8? come on

get dumervile or something ...

beast
Select Member

12 years ago

#12

Too late, the Ravens are interested.

Isn't he more of a 4-3 end?

He's gonna wanna get paid, either way.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

He has said he MUCH prefers the 4-3 to the 3-4. But hey money talks.... who ever pays him the most he'll listen.

He's a speed rusher, who's not great against the run nor in pass coverage.

He did play one season in a 3-4 defense and got 17 sacks that season, but was moved a round a lot and got to face off against the offenses lines worst pass protector a lot because of that.

So like this last season, the Lions RG was horrible, he would be lined up at ILB and the DL would run a stunt to get him one on one with the RG.

Of course teams saw this and started running directly at him, because he's not that good against the run.

But hey... it was 17 sacks... you can have some run defense with 17 sacks. But the question is how bad? ... and he may or may not play a lot against the Vikings.

play2win
Senior Member

12 years ago

#13

Originally Posted by: Dulak

Oh yeah, I think there are a lot of people feeling this same way.

Looks more and more like Ted is going the "Run What 'Cha Brung!" approach, not dipping into any FA, or only low cost FAs, cutting off a bunch of high priced contracts, and parlaying those savings into re-signing Rodgers and Matthews.

With the dollars Ted Thompson has to afford in Rodgers and Matthews he can't play in Free Agency. It is just impossible. Everybody wants to keep both players, but many are not looking clearly at what Ted has to do to make that happen.

Here are two examples of the kinds of contracts Ted must fit into our caps moving forward for both Rodgers and Matthews:
Flacco cap hit: 2013: $6.8M, 2014: $14.8M, 2015: $14.5M, 2016: $28.5M, 2017: $31.2M, 2018: $24.7M. Williams cap hit: 2013: $12.4M, 2014: $18.4M, 2015: $19M, 2016: $19.9M, 2017: $16.5M. Those are GIANT cap numbers. Figure our two players in Rodgers and Matthews will be very similar, or more.

Those look pretty back ended. Ted will want to front load as much as possible. I don't think he wants to sign anyone in FA this year.

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