play2win
11 years ago

Just because Ted doesn't tell YOU what he does with or says to players about their contracts doesn't mean that he does absolutely nothing.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



steve, its not me, it is the players saying he doesn't communicate with them. Jenkins. Jones. Woodson. Jennings. Even now, Finley is getting the silent treatment. Not my words. Theirs.
Zero2Cool
11 years ago
You're completely dodging the big picture here.

Between 2010-2011 Eagles made him an offer. The Packers either matched it or exceeded it, I can't recall exactly. Fact of the matter is, he could have been with the Packers for the same money he got in 2011. Jenkins chose the Eagles.

Now he's cut by the Eagles, the team he chose over the Packers and he's being interviewed by a Packers writer. Let that sink in for a moment.

Jenkins knows full well who has got the blame for his being an Eagle and not a Packer.

Of course he's going to say he would have signed with GB for less money (appealing to those who feel players are overpaid) and continue to let the blame fall on Thompson, instead of admitting he chose the Eagles over the Packers, thus, alienating him with a portion of the fan base that he might end up playing for again? Think about this.

Bottom line, he is now a Giant and and he chose to leave the Packers. Accept it and move on.

Regarding the Packers signing ~30 year old free agents.

Thompson believes, and this is from Ron Wolf too, that you have to groom offensive players, but you can add free agent players in defense.

Offense = draft and develop
Defense = draft and develop and fill in spots with free agents


Not overpaying for a near 30 year old RB ... not much of a surprise, lol.

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Zero2Cool
11 years ago

steve, its not me, it is the players saying he doesn't communicate with them. Jenkins. Jones. Woodson. Jennings. Even now, Finley is getting the silent treatment. Not my words. Theirs.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Should I piss and moan because the CEO doesn't talk to me? I have a manager for a reason, just as the players have position coaches, coordinators and head coach. This is a reach to find something to dis Ted Thompson. Why? Did he smack your kitten or something?


And what the heck is he supposed to be saying to Jermichael Finley, who signed a contract last year and is still under contract? The guy shouldn't be talking to guys under contract with the draft approaching. He should be continuing to develop his draft board and thinking of how to extend the essential core players of the team ... Aaron Rodgers, Clay Matthews .. for example.
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play2win
11 years ago

Should I piss and moan because the CEO doesn't talk to me? I have a manager for a reason, just as the players have position coaches, coordinators and head coach. This is a reach to find something to dis Ted Thompson. Why? Did he smack your kitten or something?


And what the heck is he supposed to be saying to Jermichael Finley, who signed a contract last year and is still under contract? The guy shouldn't be talking to guys under contract with the draft approaching. He should be continuing to develop his draft board and thinking of how to extend the essential core players of the team ... Aaron Rodgers, Clay Matthews .. for example.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



WTF? I'm just talking about how Ted Thompson communicates with players contractually on their way out in GB. The players themselves have clearly stated he doesn't communicate with them at all.

In my opinion, I believe that is too rigid, and puts players off.

Finley knows there is a lot of talk publicly that he is overpaid, and clearly doesn't want to take a cut. His agent wanted to discuss the matter with Thompson. Silent treatment. No?

A reach? I'm talking about player relations. Is that not important?
play2win
11 years ago

You're completely dodging the big picture here.

Between 2010-2011 Eagles made him an offer. The Packers either matched it or exceeded it, I can't recall exactly. Fact of the matter is, he could have been with the Packers for the same money he got in 2011. Jenkins chose the Eagles.

Now he's cut by the Eagles, the team he chose over the Packers and he's being interviewed by a Packers writer. Let that sink in for a moment.

Jenkins knows full well who has got the blame for his being an Eagle and not a Packer.

Of course he's going to say he would have signed with GB for less money (appealing to those who feel players are overpaid) and continue to let the blame fall on Thompson, instead of admitting he chose the Eagles over the Packers, thus, alienating him with a portion of the fan base that he might end up playing for again? Think about this.

Bottom line, he is now a Giant and and he chose to leave the Packers. Accept it and move on.

Regarding the Packers signing ~30 year old free agents.

Thompson believes, and this is from Ron Wolf too, that you have to groom offensive players, but you can add free agent players in defense.

Offense = draft and develop
Defense = draft and develop and fill in spots with free agents

Not overpaying for a near 30 year old RB ... not much of a surprise, lol.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Really? Did the Packers really match the money PHI offered? Really? Because that is kind of important in this discussion, and that is news to me.

I do not believe you are correct Zero2Cool.
Zero2Cool
11 years ago

WTF? I'm just talking about how Ted Thompson communicates with players contractually on their way out in GB. The players themselves have clearly stated he doesn't communicate with them at all.

In my opinion, I believe that is too rigid, and puts players off.

Finley knows there is a lot of talk publicly that he is overpaid, and clearly doesn't want to take a cut. His agent wanted to discuss the matter with Thompson. Silent treatment. No?

A reach? I'm talking about player relations. Is that not important?

Originally Posted by: play2win 



It doesn't put any players off. He is the General Manager, not personal relations guru. (lets be thankful for that, lol). No arguing that he has an off putting personality, but he doesn't need to be charming. If a player is going to get bent over that, seriously, I wouldn't want them on the team, ever. That is so petty to even worry over.

Finley's agent wants to discuss ... wait for it ... EXTENDING his client ... why? because extension = more money for client and agent.


Trying to pin personal relations on the GM ... that is a reach. Yes. No question about it. While he's fielding phone calls to his four dozen or so players, should he also console the other insecure individuals on the payroll too?


Each person has a role. Thompson knows his role. Thompson's role is not to be head of personal relations.



And I couldn't careless if you believe me on Jenkins. Feel free to continuing to let Jenkins slide and put the blame on Thompson. You are entitled to your thoughts.
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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

WTF? I'm just talking about how Ted Thompson communicates with players contractually on their way out in GB. The players themselves have clearly stated he doesn't communicate with them at all.

In my opinion, I believe that is too rigid, and puts players off.

Finley knows there is a lot of talk publicly that he is overpaid, and clearly doesn't want to take a cut. His agent wanted to discuss the matter with Thompson. Silent treatment. No?

A reach? I'm talking about player relations. Is that not important?

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Coaches communicate; GMs calculate then negotiate - when the time is right. When a deal/offer is influenced so much by market conditions - how much other free agents get and what others may offer our players, the GM should be silent until his own negotiating position is clear. As for the age thing, obviously that varies greatly case by case, and to a great extent it is a matter of luck. I'm not a huge defender of Thompson, but he has guessed right more often than he has guessed wrong, and the result is a consistent winning record.


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