play2win
11 years ago
Man, this might be the absolute perfect time to trade Graham Harrell.

The QBs in this draft are considered a relatively weak class. There are a number of teams looking for a starting QB: AZ, NYJ, CLE, KC, PHI and BUF. All six sitting near the top of the draft. If we could trade him for an R2, I'd swing away. Who knows?

Harrell has 2 seasons under what is considered one of the best QB coaches in the game in McCarthy, watching a league MVP in Rodgers the whole way. Harrell could hold more trade value than we might think, especially in this weak draft class for QBs

I would LOVE to see it happen.

Check this out:
"Frank Scelfo, the Jaguars’ new quarterbacks coach, caught some heat this week for insisting Jacksonville starter Blaine Gabbert would be the first passer taken in this year’s draft.

"If you graded him out right now, this is his draft class. If he were coming out — and the quarterback draft class the way it is — would he be the top guy taken? I think the answer is yes," Scelfo told The Florida Times-Union.

People mocked Scelfo last week, but guess what? He’s absolutely right."
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/matt-barkley-geno-smith-landry-jones-2013-qb-class-lacking-franchise-players-021813 

I've read comments recently by John Elway alluding to how poor this class is for teams looking to add a QB.

I think Harrell would be a superior QB to any available, and IMO better than Gabbert. Ted Thompson should take a page from Ron Wolf, and recognize the value of trading QBs that have been in the system. Trade away Ted!
Porforis
11 years ago
You could, but...

1. What sort of a draft pick would we get for him? 4th at best?
2. We would need to draft a QB from a weak class, trade for someone, or elevate someone from the practice squad to back up Rodgers.

I do NOT think Harrell is going to develop into a reliable backup, at least in Green Bay. So while it'd be nice to get something for him, are we really going to get more for him than we'd need to give up?
steveishere
11 years ago
He would be worth more like a 6th at best. You are really overstating how bad the QBs in the draft are. Harrell is a guy who wasn't even draftable and hasn't even done anything to show that he's any good. He's worth absolutely nothing IMO.
play2win
11 years ago
IMO, no way he's worth less than R3.
nerdmann
11 years ago
Matt Flynn gets traded before Harrell, imo. Possibly Mike Vick too. Then there's guys like Brady Quinn out there.

It's an interesting idea. Harrell has developed his arm strength. That's really his only big question mark. He's got the smarts.
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JustJeff
11 years ago

Matt Flynn gets traded before Harrell, imo. Possibly Mike Vick too. Then there's guys like Brady Quinn out there.

It's an interesting idea. Harrell has developed his arm strength. That's really his only big question mark. He's got the smarts.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


Harrell still isn't good under center. He was a spread quarterback in college. He still looks it. Give him two-minute drill stuff and he looks really good. But put him under center, and in about a dozen snaps, he gets stepped on twice. BJ Coleman cannot get ready quickly enough for me. And I was a huge Harrell fan when we originally signed him.

play2win
11 years ago

Harrell still isn't good under center. He was a spread quarterback in college. He still looks it. Give him two-minute drill stuff and he looks really good. But put him under center, and in about a dozen snaps, he gets stepped on twice. BJ Coleman cannot get ready quickly enough for me. And I was a huge Harrell fan when we originally signed him.

Originally Posted by: JustJeff 



I think Aaron Rodgers might think differently, and probably some pro personnel people.
doddpower
11 years ago

He would be worth more like a 6th at best. You are really overstating how bad the QBs in the draft are. Harrell is a guy who wasn't even draftable and hasn't even done anything to show that he's any good. He's worth absolutely nothing IMO.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



lol, this. If only the NFL worked like it does in Play2Win's head. I don't even think Harrell is the best backup QB on the Packers roster (Coleman is). There's no way I would trade anything for Harrell if I were a GM. If I needed a QB that bad, I'd gladly spend a 2nd or a 3rd on someone like Mike Glennon from NC State who is massive and at least has a rocket arm. Almost like a poor-man's Joe Flacco, just needs time to develop. Glennon is >>>>>>>> Harrell. His success will just be judged by what type of situation he goes to. There are others that are better, too. Flynn is was better than Harrell. The list goes on and on. Harrell is probably one of the worst backup QBs in the league, or at least among them, despite what QB school he has went through.

Silly season is officially underway, for some.
Zero2Cool
11 years ago
Sure, do we need a bag of Doritos?
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play2win
11 years ago

lol, this. If only the NFL worked like it does in Play2Win's head.

Originally Posted by: doddpower 



No shit. 😆 😆 😆 😆

You, sir, are obviously not a Harrell believer. I am. No sweat. I do find it a bit humorous.

I don't know how you categorize him as one of the worst backups in the league. But, as you say, its silly season.
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