Two players that could put Packers over the top

TheKanataThrilla
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Would anyone else like to see a duo of Finley and Jared Cook?

Originally Posted by: cheeseheads123

I like the idea as I think this is a perfect way to control the clock and really unbalance the opposing defence. Is Jordy fast enough to provide the quick deep threat though is my only question? NE is blessed that they have a WR to provide that deep threat that opens the middle for the two TE set.

doddpower
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12 years ago

#22

Jared Cook > Finley, IMO. Although, neither can block very well. It would definitely be fun to watch though.

DakotaT
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12 years ago

#23

NE is blessed that they have a WR to provide that deep threat that opens the middle for the two TE set.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla

NE is blessed with having an offensive line that gets away with murder, and also a quarterback who when breathed on with enough verosity gets a roughing the passer call.

Packfan87
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#24

Ed Reed?

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dhazer
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12 years ago

#25

Ed Reed?

Originally Posted by: Packfan87

I already said that for the purpose of leadership :)

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Rockmolder
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12 years ago

#26

A lot of the big ones have already been mentiond, but another signing that could have quite a positive impact would be Randy Starks.

Doesn't miss games, quietly plays on a high level in either the 3-4 or 4-3, can get to the QB quite decently, while still having some nice size to him.

Going by position alone in the draft, I'd still like to get another OLB. You can never have enough pass rushers and, in my mind, three is the minimum of guys I'd want to have who can get to the QB.

Realistically, get rid of Finley and get someone at TE who can make something happen, but who can play that reliable security blanket type of TE, as well. Wouldn't mind seeing Eifert in green and gold, even though some might see it as just a bit of a reach.

Yerko
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12 years ago

#27

Player 2: Ryan Clady

An all-pro left tackle available in free agency? Of course, Denver won't let him leave town, but since we're dreaming, I'll take an offensive line consisting of Clady/Lang/Jones/Sitton/Bulaga.

Originally Posted by: porky88

Thanks Porky...now I have to go home on lunch and get a change of underwear...

rabidgopher04
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12 years ago

#28

Ed Reed?

Originally Posted by: Packfan87

I could see signing him similar to how we signed Eugene Robinson in 1996.

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Pack93z
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12 years ago

#29

Ed Reed?

Originally Posted by: Packfan87

I already said that for the purpose of leadership :)

Originally Posted by: dhazer

So Ed Reed and his limited range (and injury risks) now is superior to Charles Woodson? Woodson is not the same on field presence but most in the Packers locker room think he is EF Hutton. You only can play so many in the secondary.

I don't know the net gain there in terms of overall impact other than stunting others growth. Give me a blue chip talent along either of the lines.

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Yerko
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12 years ago

#30

This draft is being touted as "not as talented" as the past few...why? Because there are a TON of offensive and defensive linemen. Whatever. If people haven't realized yet, teams with a great offensive and defensive line win friggin' games and championships.

Draft: Add some BEEF to that defensive line. 6-4, 325 pound Star Lotulelei from Utah. Strong, fast, big, and plays mean.

Free Agent: Ryan Clady or Jake Long. Jake Long is a true fantasy because there is reports of him asking for $10 million a year. That's crazy considering his recent slip in play and injuries...

Of course, this is all just a fantasy...

play2win
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12 years ago

#31

How about:

Draft: RB Eddie Lacy - Alabama

FA: NT Alan Branch - SEA

I would not mind if the Packers landed one of the most punishing RBs in the draft, and used him frequently. That would make for a huge difference in the way we run our offense. Woah man. Lacy added to our offense to take the heat off of Rodgers, and open up the passing game would be awesome. A change in philosophy along with a change in capability regarding the running game would go a long way to improving our team overall.

Can you imagine what it would be like to draft a kid who turns out to be one of the top RBs in the NFL, with Rodgers & Co firing off in a balanced run/pass assault? I'm not saying drafting Lacy would insure that, but if it happened... wow. I'd love to see it. Drafting a supreme RB talent that high might force the change in focus of our play calling, which I think we desperately need. Keep Rodgers healthy, and our own defense fresh, with an offensive game plan that puts opposing defenses on their heels by making them play honest.

Offseason. Dreaming. I doubt it would be the way Ted would go, but a guy can dream... I really want to see Green Bay pound the F out of other teams. Make toughness a mantra.

Pack93z
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12 years ago

#32

Me... I would rather target Montee Ball post 1st round and address a trench player in the first. Offensive or Defensive line or if an edge pass rusher is available.. take him.

Montee Ball is more a back that fits in GB than Lacy.. he needs to be a offense that is going to pound the rock with a priority. My opinion is the Packers should be a 60/40 pass to run ratio with the back also being active in the passing game.

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Zero2Cool
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12 years ago

#33

I've been reading that this draft is more solid with OL and DL and LB than anything else. I think that is good, since those are three positions the Packers need to shore up.

Draft (since we're assuming regardless that the player will be a blue chip) - ILB

Free Agent - Osi Umenyiora

I changed from Safety to ILB because I think the ILB will make the current Safety better. Also, Osi Umenyiora will make the defensive backs better too.

nerdmann
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12 years ago

#34

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Burnett's coming along.

McMillian was pretty raw when he came out, but I think he's just gonna keep getting better. Darren Perry is a great coach, and McMillian's got all the physical tools.

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JustJeff
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12 years ago

#35

Draft (since we're assuming regardless that the player will be a blue chip) - I'm wishing for the same thing I have wanted since Dominic took over the defense, a five-tech. Give me that 6' 5" guy with crazy long arms, who can play with good lean for rushing the passer but is good with his hands and keeping guys off of him to defend the run. Ziggy Ansah and Margus Hunt - both very raw - look the part, but this is fantasy and a guaranteed blue chip, so let the board find that guy.

Pro - not exactly a free agent, but availble - give me Darrelle Revis.

Zero2Cool
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12 years ago

#36

Two players, no cap considerations, fantasy selections.

Player 1: The draft

We'll assume that regardless of the position, the Packers get a blue chipper with their 26th overall selection in the 2013 draft. Essentially, you're choosing the position the Packers need the most that will make them Super Bowl contenders.

Player 2: Choose from the list of free agents as well.
http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/42077/309/nfl-free-agent-master-list-13

I'll go with drafting a Safety in the first round because I think a blue chip Safety would make the Packers defense damn near elite with my free agent pickup Osi Umenyiora.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Looks like the Packers drafted the "Osi" and have the Safety on board already ...

mi_keys
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12 years ago

#37

Originally Posted by: play2win

Well we got Lacy x2 (throw Franklin in with him) and we drafted what should hopefully be the defensive line help you wanted in Datone. Your dream wasn't far off what actually happened.

Born and bred a cheesehead

play2win
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12 years ago

#38

Well we got Lacy x2 (throw Franklin in with him) and we drafted what should hopefully be the defensive line help you wanted in Datone. Your dream wasn't far off what actually happened.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys

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I really like what Ted Thompson did this draft. We will be a much different, and better team as a result. Can't wait to see these players in action this season.

Just caught this bit from McCarthy and Alex Van Pelt:

"Asked if Lacy and Franklin will alter the way the offense functions – read: will McCarthy call more running plays – the coach was good-naturedly non-committal.

“Hey, if we’re running it good a certain way, we’re running more often that particular way, that’s something we’ve never shied away from in our offense. We get into a lot of different personnel groups, obviously formation utilization is something we’ve always done. We’ve made some scheme adjustments that we’ve (provided), visiting with our players the last two weeks. We have already started that process. Lacy, frankly will fit into some of these changes we’ve made. We’ll see how it goes through the off-season and training camp. I’m excited about it.”

But considering the steady diet of Cover-2 defenses Rodgers and the Packers’ pass-oriented offense saw last season, finding a running back – whoever it is – who’ll command defenses’ respect will make a significant difference.

“If we can get that balance and get the running game going and open up the passing game, which we hope it will, that’s obviously a key to success,” said running backs coach Alex Van Pelt, a former quarterback whose time with McCarthy dates back to their time together at the University of Pittsburgh. “You always want to run well, obviously. We haven’t been satisfied, at least last year watching the evaluation. We needed to get better in that area – whether it be scheme, technique, players, adjust and adapt what we do. We had to improve in the run game, and that was addressed.”
http://www.espnmilwaukee.com/common/page.php?feed=2&id=7681&is_corp=1

HUGE! I really love what Van Pelt had to say here, and I think that reflects the renewed emphasis of this staff on utilizing the run.

nerdmann
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12 years ago

#39

“Hey, if we’re running it good a certain way, we’re running more often that particular way, that’s something we’ve never shied away from in our offense.

Originally Posted by: play2win

Really? LOL

“If we can get that balance and get the running game going and open up the passing game, which we hope it will, that’s obviously a key to success,” said running backs coach Alex Van Pelt, a former quarterback whose time with McCarthy dates back to their time together at the University of Pittsburgh.

What I hear him saying is, they're not gonna force Aaron to throw short, high percentage passes. They're going to use the RBs to bring the safeties up instead, so Aaron can keep throwing deep.

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Gaycandybacon
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12 years ago

#40

Really? LOL

What I hear him saying is, they're not gonna force Aaron to throw short, high percentage passes. They're going to use the RBs to bring the safeties up instead, so Aaron can keep throwing deep.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Our offense is predicated on the play action passing game. Well we couldn't do that well last year because lack there of a running game, yet he still put up numbers. I don't agree that Aaron throws it deep more times than short. Many of his TDs where short passing game and in the redzone. He's the best QB in the redzone statisticly since he started in 08'. We throw so many screens as well. There is one thing we need to get back to is the slant routes. Honestly if you can have a TD to INT ratio like that throw it where ever you want. I think he throws it all over the lot. Not just hold the ball as long as you can and throw it up and pray someone catches it.

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