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earthquake
Member Topic Starter

12 years ago

I thought this was interesting.

2007, 13-3, lost in playoffs to superbowl winner
2008, 6-10, transitional year
2009, 11-5, lost in playoffs to previous years NFC superbowl team
2010, 10-6, won superbowl
2011, 15-1, lost in playoffs to superbowl winner
2012, 11-5, lost in playoffs to NFC superbowl team

Since 2007, the packers have either won the superbowl or have lost in the playoffs to the NFC team that went on to play in the superbowl in all but two seasons. In one of those season, they lost to the NFC team who was represented the NFC in the superbowl the year before, and the other season, they had a horrid defense and were lead by a first year QB.

Its easy to sit back and find things to complain about this time of year, and certainly there are a lot of heartbreaking losses on this list, but you have to give GB's front office, coaching staff, etc credit for putting the team in a position to compete year in and year out. That's not something you can say for the majority of teams in the league.

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rabidgopher04
Member

12 years ago

To be considered elite they will need to get over the hump and beat these teams. While it's exciting to be competitive each year, and better than what fans of most teams experience, the goal is to win the SB. Anything less is a disappointment.

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dfosterf
Veteran Member

12 years ago

13 time world champions. I have witnessed 7 of them.

That list I find unacceptable.

We are THE small market team. We must remember we are in it to win it. WE own this team. It is enough, if we just remind us to hold these corporate fucks to our values. They forget so very fast. Mark Murphy can kma if he can't deliver a SB, notwithstanding his bullshit about atriums and scoreboards and such.

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RajiRoar
Senior Member

12 years ago

playoffs are nice, but we have been flat embarrassed the last 2 times..

I'm not too fond of the Cards game either.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

12 years ago

The Packers are not an elite team and I don't think they will be under this regime. I think the coaching staff is too stubborn to make the necessary adjustments to win consistently in the playoffs. They lack a killer instinct to put teams away. And they let inferior teams hang around and in some cases let them win.

The Packers are a top 10 team in the NFL, but they are not elite. Elite teams don't get embarrassed at home in the playoffs and surely elite teams do not let a QB run for 170+ of his 181 before even once laying a hand on him. To his credit, Dom Capers did try to contain, he did try a spy (three actually at different times) and he just couldn't stop him.

I went into the last few seasons with hopes of a Super Bowl contention ... now ... I'm thankful for the wins, the division championships but have realized Aaron Rodgers no longer respects his coach and the team is drifting away.

There needs to be changes and the changes needed are against the grain the Packers have exhibited over Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy's careers with the Packers.

Sit back, enjoy the division championships while they last.

rabidgopher04
Member

12 years ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Interesting sentiment. I know people on this board were praising MM's killer instinct and the genius of Ted Thompson when we won the Super Bowl. Would you say that is an anomaly? Are you also suggesting that MM needs to go?

What evidence do you have the ARod no longer respects his coach? This is the first I have heard that contention. Not trying to flame, just want to understand your perspective.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

12 years ago

Interesting sentiment. I know people on this board were praising MM's killer instinct and the genius of Ted Thompson when we won the Super Bowl. Would you say that is an anomaly? Are you also suggesting that Mike McCarthy needs to go?

What evidence do you have the ARod no longer respects his coach? This is the first I have heard that contention. Not trying to flame, just want to understand your perspective.

Originally Posted by: rabidgopher04

Dec 17th 2012, Aaron Rodgers says "Just not a very intelligent call at that point in the game." regarding the fake punt while leading by only 8 points late in the game.

Remember Aaron Rodgers jumping and yelling in the face of Mike McCarthy after he threw the red flag for a review on a play that is automatically reviewed?

Some will say oh that is just his passion or hey at least he is honest. Fact of the matter, you can be honest and show passion without disrespecting your coach.

There have been other things he's done and said on his weekly radio show that indicate he either does not like him, or respect him or perhaps both.

Folks can continue to make excuses and laugh at things like this, but you, me or someone else does these things, or gets bent out of shape over losing a card game ... nearly all will point to them as flaws in character, where when it's Aaron Rodgers ... we hear "oh he is SUCH a competitor!!"

Edit, forgot to address your McCarthy comments. If 2013 resembles 2012 or 2011 in the playoffs, HE or the defensive coordinator need to be changed. 2010 was an anomaly, yes. I loved every bit of it too! But 2009, 2011 and 2012 ended quite similarly and little has been done to ensure it won't happen again.

Porforis
Veteran Member

12 years ago

playoffs are nice, but we have been flat embarrassed the last 2 times..

I'm not too fond of the Cards game either.

Originally Posted by: RajiRoar

That. It's one thing to lose by a touchdown or two in a tough game with an eventual super bowl winner, but the last two times this happened (if you assume SF is going to win it all this year) it's been flat-out ugly. Cardinals game was ugly too, but at least it was ugly on both sides.

I know every team will be disappointed somewhat if they don't win it all and we should be somewhat proud that we're perennial contenders, but it would be a massive disappointment if we didn't get another SB victory or even reach the SB again in the next 5 years or so. So while it's not the end of the world that we didn't make it to the big game this year and it was nice to at least win ONE postseason game unlike last year, at some point this team needs to be able to squeak out big games against a top 3 team when it really matters. Because if you want to be #1, you need to be able to beat everyone else.

earthquake
Member Topic Starter

12 years ago

If the Packer's aren't elite in the last 5-6 years, who is?

The Patriots? Sure they get to the playoffs almost every year, and have been to the superbowl twice, but they haven't won it since 2004.
The Steelers? They haven't won the SB since 2008, and have not been a good team since losing to GB in 2010.
The Giants? They have been largely inconsistent missing the playoffs 3 times in the same time frame, despite two superbowl wins.
The Ravens? They've been at the cusp for seemingly the last decade, only now getting over the hump after their SB win following the 2000 season.
The Colts? A SB win over a Rex Grossman lead bears team does not make anyone elite.

As fans of the greatest franchise in the league its awesome to have high expectations, but at some point you have to be realistic as well.

Who are these mythical "elite" teams if GB isn't one of them? They don't exist, that's the reality. If anyone doesn't think the packers have been elite over the last 5-6 years, give me your list of teams that have been better.

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Porforis
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#10

If the Packer's aren't elite in the last 5-6 years, who is?

The Patriots? Sure they get to the playoffs almost every year, and have been to the superbowl twice, but they haven't won it since 2004.
The Steelers? They haven't won the SB since 2005, and have not been a good team since losing to GB in 2010.
The Giants? They have been largely inconsistent missing the playoffs 3 times in the same time frame, despite two superbowl wins.
The Ravens? They've been at the cusp for seemingly the last decade, only now getting over the hump after their SB win following the 2000 season.
The Colts? A SB win over a Rex Grossman lead bears team does not make anyone elite.

As fans of the greatest franchise in the league its awesome to have high expectations, but at some point you have to be realistic as well.

Who are these mythical "elite" teams if GB isn't one of them? They don't exist, that's the reality. If anyone doesn't think the packers have been elite over the last 5-6 years, give me your list of teams that have been better.

Originally Posted by: earthquake

It really depends on your definition of "elite". In my mind, that says top 3. Nobody's been top 3 most of the last 5 years except MAYBE the Patriots. That's just the nature of the league, and parity is part of what makes the NFL great.

Would you rather have the Packers make the postseason 10 of the next 10 years, winning an average of 2 games per postseason, or get to the postseason 6 times in the next 10 years and win it all twice? I'm not saying that I don't appreciate what we have or that we're perennially a top 5 team or very close to it, but in the end what matters are super bowls. If we don't win anything in the next 5 years or so and always hover around the top 5 in the league, are we really elite or just very good?

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