doddpower
11 years ago

See.. and I thought for a second year player, Smith was giving us that boost as a coverage backer. Personally, I am really high on the rotation of Hawk, Bishop and Smith. I think with a bit more seasoning, Smith may become that an excellent player for this team and scheme.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



Any concern about DJ Smith coming back from his injury? I thought it was pretty nasty.

shield4life
11 years ago
What we need this off season:

Offense:

HB - WR - CENTER

*Let's hope Ted Thompson actually signs Steven Jackson this off season, rather have him over any HB that's on this team.

Steven Jackson / Benson / Harris

Defense:

MLB / DE / DT / Safety

IMO Safety & D-line most important voids to fill in.
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shield4life
11 years ago

I think Ted Thompson will spend the money in FA is he feels it's worth it but he won't reach. He did with Woodson. However, there aren't many FA's like that and he now has less cap room to work with.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



Expect some players to be cut ...

Woodson / Hawk / Driver ... possibly 3 packers that won't be around ...

Saturday is gone too, can't seem to remember if he got a two year deal or just one.
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QCHuskerFan
11 years ago
There is no way Ted Thompson will ever ante up money for Jackson. And I pray to God in thanks for that.

Jackson is exactly why Ted Thompson doesn't play in the FA market. Why pay top/ high dollar for someone on the downhill side of their career? And Jackson is declining. Maybe if Jackson would sign for the minimum, ok. But anything above that? No.

Defensively, MLB is more of a need to me than safety. Hawk is average and needs replaced in 2014 anyway. Our next 2 are coming off major injuries and are a concern. Jones did well, all things considered, but... Upgrades are very necessary, in my opinion.
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RajiRoar
11 years ago

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Jackson is exactly why Ted Thompson doesn't play in the FA market. Why pay top/ high dollar for someone on the downhill side of their career? And Jackson is declining. Maybe if Jackson would sign for the minimum, ok. But anything above that? No.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



I doubt he will go for minimum, but i'm pretty sure SJAX would be cheap, he wants a ring, not a payday.

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play2win
11 years ago

There is no way Ted Thompson will ever ante up money for Jackson. And I pray to God in thanks for that.

Jackson is exactly why Ted Thompson doesn't play in the FA market. Why pay top/ high dollar for someone on the downhill side of their career? And Jackson is declining. Maybe if Jackson would sign for the minimum, ok. But anything above that? No.

Defensively, MLB is more of a need to me than safety. Hawk is average and needs replaced in 2014 anyway. Our next 2 are coming off major injuries and are a concern. Jones did well, all things considered, but... Upgrades are very necessary, in my opinion.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



I agree. Harris will be great, if they just give the guy the carries. Green too.

As for Hawk, Ted invested quite a lot in him, and his ceilings are readily apparent. I thought he played much better this year, but he remains a bit of of a liability in coverage across the middle, and seems just a bit slow for the position. Brad Jones, while I thought his play improved as well, I just don't see him as a nose for the ball kind of MLB that we need to shut down the run at the line. He seems too small and has difficulty getting off blocks. His 2 sacks came against JAX and TEN. I thought his height would help him more in coverage.

We could use a real upgrade in the middle of our Linebacking corps. Right now, it seems we don't have those players you fear over the middle.

nerdmann
11 years ago
Offensive needs: C, WR, QB

Defensive needs: NT, OLB, S
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play2win
11 years ago
Do we switch to a 4-3? That could really factor in big with how we approach this draft.

NE made the switch last season, and it wasn't without some pain for them. DAL looks to be making the switch. A good 3-4 takes some special players, and we appear short on some of those up front. It will be interesting to see how they go from here to upgrade our D. Regardless of scheme, I do think MLB is a position calling out for an upgrade, even if Bish comes back.

Figure Perry and Worthy are both prototypical 4-3 players. It wouldn't take a whole lot to make that change. I would love to see some giants added to our DL, players who can bull rush to the passer, and who are stout against the run.
QCHuskerFan
11 years ago
I don't see the switch happening. Management likes the 3-4 because it is easier/ cheaper to find 8 LB's than it is to find 8 DL. The 3-4 is arguably better for special teams also because you have more LB's instead of DL available.

Then there is our current roster. CM3 is a special player in the 3-4. In the 4-3, he would be wasted. Much like Aaron Kampman was in the transition the other way. The difference is CM3>>>>> Kampy. So why would you make a change that essentially nullifies your best player? It would be like installing the Wildcat on Offense. If you take Aaron Rodgers away from the ball, the other team wins. Putting Matthews as a 4-3 LB would be to the advantage of the Bears, Lions, etc.

But I've been wrong before. Lots. More than anyone else, I bet. Just ask my wife.
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RajiRoar
11 years ago

CM3>>>>> Kampy.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



dontchu talk bad about kampy![-x

you used way too many ">"s.



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