play2win
12 years ago

One has to think now the Hargrove's suspension has been lifted.. we might be inclined to take another run at him.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



Hargrove may have worn out his welcome by being insubordinate to the coaching staff.
PackFanWithTwins
12 years ago

One has to think now the Hargrove's suspension has been lifted.. we might be inclined to take another run at him.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



Suspension wasn't really an issue, he has been available this entire time as the appeals have been going on. But I do agree, he might be an option. If either Neal or Wilson can't make it back, or even if they both can, the added depth on the Dline could be useful in the playoffs.
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PackFanWithTwins
12 years ago

The thing I don't get, is we knew Raji needed less reps this season. We also knew Pickett was super valuable, and not getting any younger. As this season has worn on, we've kept some players out to save reps on their bodies till late season/playoffs to keep them fresh. I just do not get how we are overlooking Pick and Raji with regards to this.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



They have been rotating them pretty well. Remember Raji missed a couple games also.

Raji has the highest snap count of the Dline at 508 of a total of 860 snaps for the defense or about 59%. Pickett is 2nd with 464 snaps 53.9%, followed by Worthy at 410, 47.6% though Worthy has also been on 110 special teams snaps.


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QCHuskerFan
12 years ago

The money was not the factor. Zero has mentioned many times that GB offered Jenkins more than what he took with Phil.
He had his prided hurt because GB didn't pony up more and quicker than what they did so he went on to Phil and what was suppose to be this great dream team.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



No, the deal was all about money. It's just that Jenkins was offering a discount if the Pack gave him a long-term contract. So we would have a 30+ yr old player with an injury history tying up cash long term. Again, Jenkins or Rodgers or Matthews or Jennings? Because you can't have them all.

Jenkins was coming off a year in which he had only played 11 games. In fact, he had played in only 31 games in the last 3 years. There is no way to know that he would be able to play the full schedule in the future as he has done the past 2 years.



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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

One has to think now the Hargrove's suspension has been lifted.. we might be inclined to take another run at him.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



I do believe his suspension carried through regardless of being on a team's active roster. I thought that was posted somewhere here ... not sure though and I have to fix the Search feature ... again ... cuz the host screwed it up.
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doddpower
12 years ago

I do believe his suspension carried through regardless of being on a team's active roster. I thought that was posted somewhere here ... not sure though and I have to fix the Search feature ... again ... cuz the host screwed it up.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Regardless of whether he was available some of not, I'm sure the uncertainly pushed some teams away as well. No organization wants to deal with a player that may or may not be suspended randomly in the future. At least when there is something concrete, they can play accordingly.

Pack93z
12 years ago
My understanding on Hargrove is that his suspension time served only counted off if he was on an active roster. It was lifted during the appeal but I think teams might have been leery of signing him then having to deal with the suspension that could have been reinstated at any time.
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SINCITYCHEEZE
12 years ago
Looks like we cut Vic So'to and moved DT Jordan Miller up from the practice squad. Source-Packers.com
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beast
12 years ago

1996 - Andre Rison
2010 - Howard Green
2012 - ...

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Starks coming in and playing well also helped a lot in 2010.

2012:
Ryan Grant (heck all of the RBs if they get it moving)
Don Barclay
All of the CBs


As for linemen... I think we need more (and better) pass rushers... both on the DL and OLB.
OL needs more depth everywhere though we might be developing some of it if they would just get healthy and stay healthy...
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play2win
12 years ago

Looks like we cut Vic So'to and moved DT Jordan Miller up from the practice squad. Source-Packers.com

Originally Posted by: SINCITYCHEEZE 



Yep! OK. So, Ted went with the PS promotion. He likes the youth, and the staff knows what they are getting with his having been in the system.

"Miller, a 6-foot-1, 309-pound first-year player out of Southern University, was signed to Green Bay's practice squad on Oct. 23. He spent the first 15 games of the 2011 season on Chicago's practice squad before being signed to the Bears' active roster for the season finale (inactive). Miller was with the Bears during the 2012 preseason until he was released on Aug. 31, 2012. He originally entered the league with Chicago as a non-drafted free agent on July 27, 2011. Miller will wear No. 91 for the Packers."

Good to have some help on the DL.

Here are his stats at Southern:

Jordan Miller - 2010 Senior - Nose Tackle for Southern University

2010 STATS
32 tackles
7 sacks
15 Tackle for Loss
5 QB Hurries

CAREER STATS (2008-2010)
90 tackles
15.5 sacks
27.5 Tackles for Loss
10 Hurries

These are pretty good for playing NT, which was his position at Southern. Hopefully he will be able to give us some production in the rotation. I bet this former Bear will be motivated to make an impact here Sunday, playing his old team.
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