Cheesey
12 years ago
At this point in the season, i don't see anyone out there that would be a great help. Picking off the "garbage heap" i don't believe would even be a quick fix right now.

They need to get on these guys and teach them NOT to get pushed around.

I'm just glad Rodgers hasn't been killed....yet.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago
1996 - Andre Rison
2010 - Howard Green
2012 - ...
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DanJustDan29
12 years ago
It seems the guys we have are skilled enough, they just seem to lack enthusiasm and desire until it is presumed to be NEEDED. (TEXANS)
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nerdmann
12 years ago

1996 - Andre Rison
2010 - Howard Green
2012 - ...

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Grady Jackson fell out of the sky and saved our season that one year too. Was it 2003?
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play2win
12 years ago

1996 - Andre Rison
2010 - Howard Green
2012 - ...

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



That's what I'm thinking... someone will be added here shortly. We could use the help.
play2win
12 years ago

Cullen Jenkins LEFT! 😣 😣 😣

Jason Babin is not the answer to anything except a struggling salary cap lol

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Call it what you want, but our front office posturing prior to the SB told Jenkins all he needed to know, that he was not in our plans for 2011. That, to me, was a huge blunder by Ted Thompson. Huge. Jenkins wound up signing with Philly for less than what many had expected, and would have been a great value for us, had we not removed the Welcome mat.

We have yet to fully recover from the loss of that one player. Solid veteran presence on our DL. Big, big, big mistake in my opinion.
Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Call it what you want, but our front office posturing prior to the SB told Jenkins all he needed to know, that he was not in our plans for 2011. That, to me, was a huge blunder by Ted Thompson. Huge. Jenkins wound up signing with Philly for less than what many had expected, and would have been a great value for us, had we not removed the Welcome mat.

We have yet to fully recover from the loss of that one player. Solid veteran presence on our DL. Big, big, big mistake in my opinion.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



The blunder would have been to overpay for talent that was going to be 30 and had some recent injury issues. Waiting for the market to establish was the intelligent thing to do. Unfortunately, Cullen Jenkins wanted big bucks BEFORE the market established his worth. Hindsight doesn't make any one look smart, just silly. This whole thing irritates me because people believe the twisted bull the media puts out there instead of the actual facts. Albeit, media did report the Packers were exceeding the Eagles offer, but does that get the attention? The headlines? No, because people don't give a damn about accuracy or facts. They want headlines, the quick, the easy, the negative!

So, in other words, your opinion I vehemently disagree with. Jenkins is an Eagle and in my opinion, people need to let it go, especially if they are going to ignore the facts of the situation.

As for failing to recover from a loss of one player, quit your search at Nick Collins. It really is a bummer people fail to recognize the talent and leadership he had and his importance to the team and instead bestow that credit to ... Cullen freaking Jenkins.
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nerdmann
12 years ago

The blunder would have been to overpay for talent that was going to be 30 and had some recent injury issues. Waiting for the market to establish was the intelligent thing to do. Unfortunately, Cullen Jenkins wanted big bucks BEFORE the market established his worth. Hindsight doesn't make any one look smart, just silly. This whole thing irritates me because people believe the twisted bull the media puts out there instead of the actual facts. Albeit, media did report the Packers were exceeding the Eagles offer, but does that get the attention? The headlines? No, because people don't give a damn about accuracy or facts. They want headlines, the quick, the easy, the negative!

So, in other words, your opinion I vehemently disagree with. Jenkins is an Eagle and in my opinion, people need to let it go, especially if they are going to ignore the facts of the situation.

As for failing to recover from a loss of one player, quit your search at Nick Collins. It really is a bummer people fail to recognize the talent and leadership he had and his importance to the team and instead bestow that credit to ... Cullen freaking Jenkins.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yes and perhaps the reason Jenkins wanted it BEFORE the market set his worth, is because he wanted to get more than the market would allow.

Keeping Jenkins would have been great, but Ted has a list of priorities. Who do you want to let go in order to keep Jenkins?
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Cheesey
12 years ago
That's just it....you can't keep everyone.
It would have been great to keep Jenkins, and i think he's been missed more then the Packer brass would like to admit.
But hindsight is 20/20.
Nothing they can do about it now.
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DakotaT
12 years ago

Yes and perhaps the reason Jenkins wanted it BEFORE the market set his worth, is because he wanted to get more than the market would allow.

Keeping Jenkins would have been great, but Ted has a list of priorities. Who do you want to let go in order to keep Jenkins?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Opportunity cost is something the pundits of Uncle Ted never think about. Even in the beginning when he let Wahle and Rivera walk; nobody would ever listen to me that those two guy's fate was already decided the year before when Clifton was resigned. Sherman had done an incredibly horrible job with cap responsibility and drafting - Ted's only choice was to let that high price talent go and start the rebuild. The decision was probably the first in many that pissed of our demigod QB.

As for this coming year, I don't think we are in a great position of leverage with Greg Jennings. We've seen the offense without him and it is not even close to being as dynamic. We may be reluctant in giving him a huge contract, but it might be necessary - especially with Finley turning into a turd.
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