Zero2Cool
12 years ago

JJ made a tough TD catch today. I said in the chat that it reminded me of a Sterling Sharpe catch.

He's looking like it will be a good fight next year for the #1 WR spot between him and Jordy. Which of course is a win for us.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



I said in the chat it reminded me of an Antonio Freeman catch vs the Bears, and then posted a video on the forum too. Where's your video? I wanna see!!!!
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zombieslayer
12 years ago

Cobb will be #1.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



We're better off having Cobb as a slot receiver for now. He still hasn't impressed me on the medium range to long range routes.

Jones and Jordy, we already know can work ANY route. We already know that as both have proven it.

Cobb is our hands down best at screens and short slants and that's not even arguable.

So, that puts Jones and Jordy at #1 and #2 (either is fine) and Cobb at #3 if you call plays like 🇲🇲 does.

Numbnuts, did you miss the season Cobb is having this year? We won't have a #1, and this offense should never have that. What we should have is a diversified receiver corps that goes 5 deep. I'd love to have Jennings stay, but he is not worth the #1 receiver he and his agent think he deserves.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



See above. Sometimes I wonder if Dakota understands Os. [palm]


I said in the chat it reminded me of an Antonio Freeman catch vs the Bears, and then posted a video on the forum too. Where's your video? I wanna see!!!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I would 💓 love have videos of Sterling Sharpe. I don't.
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12 years ago

JJ made a tough TD catch today. I said in the chat that it reminded me of a Sterling Sharpe catch.

He's looking like it will be a good fight next year for the #1 WR spot between him and Jordy. Which of course is a win for us.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



Hehe, the only thing I could think of when Aikman and Buck were lauding the catch was, "You morons, that catch was merely Cris Carter-like. You should have seen 2 or 3 of the other catches he made this year. Ho hum."


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12 years ago
Cobb is not a #1 type receiver. Cobb is a unique talent that can do a combination of things that makes the old distinctions among "X", "Y", and slot inappropriate. In a way, it's like Sir Charles on the defense. Last year he was called a corner, this year he's called a safety, but in reality he fits neither position. He's sort of like a next-generation rover back. Similarly Cobb is part slot receiver, part Darren Sproles, and part something else. A pre-Otto Graham quarterback and a bit of Philip Epps and John Jefferson.

Putting him as the #1 (is Jennings the X or the Y, I can never remember) would be a waste of his talent.

Personally, I think the only WR on the roster with the potential for filling Jennings' role is Jones. I just don't think Nelson has the range of skills/endowment/whatever that you want. For some reason, I keep thinking of Alvin Harper. It isn't that I think they have the same skill level (Nelson is better) or are even the same type of receiver. But Harper was a great #2. But he was an awful #1. I don't think Nelson would be an awful #2. He'd be above average. But he'll never be Greg Jennings, much less Sterling Sharpe or James Lofton. He's missing something.

Jones has more to offer. At least potentially. I'm not sure he's got what it takes either, though. Being #1 is not just being able to make the tough catch (which he's always been good at), being strong (which he has always been), and be dependable (which he hasn't always been. There's something else. Some "it". I don't think there's anyone on the roster right now, other than Jennings, who has that it.

Maybe Troy's right, maybe we don't need a classic #1 anymore. But if we do, until Jennings gets back to health, we don't have one. And if Jennings leaves after this season, which IMO looks more likely every week, and which WILL happen if the Packers win another title this year, they won't have one from the remaining current roster next year.
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zombieslayer
12 years ago
No, we don't really have the typical #1 WR. Jennings is our closest to it, and Jones would be the closest person to replace Gregorious when he leaves.

Jordy thrives as a #2 WR.

The way Wade described Cobb is right on. He's part Darren Sproles, part something else, but on our O, he belongs either out of the backfield or in the slot position. Or if he lines outside, throw him quick passes immediately after the snap.

Cobb hasn't impressed me with his route running. Gregorious, Driver, Jordy, and Jones are all damn good route runners, but Driver has lost several steps and this is his last year fo shizzle.

Could Cobb develop into a Driver (pre-2011) or Gregorious type player? Hard to tell as he's still quite young in his development. WRs generally take a long time to develop.

What we do know about Cobb is he's possibly the most dangerous man on our team with the ball in his hands. Get him those short passes and he'll make opposing DCs pull their hair out. But for route running, Cobb couldn't even be #1 on da Bears as of 2012.

We'll revisit this topic in 2013 and 2014. 🇲🇲's smart. He'll let Cobb grow and we'll see where he is next year and the year after. If he can develop into a #1 WR, our opponents are doomed. But for the 2012 season, 🇲🇲 will be working him in short routes like screens and slants and routes from the backfield. 🇲🇲 knows what he's doing. He plays to our strengths.
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dyeah_gb
12 years ago
I was negative on JJ in the first two weeks of the season. I am happy to eat my words now. It will be great to see him keep moving up on the WR depth chart. Jones and Cobb showed they are future of this team today.
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zombieslayer
12 years ago

I was negative on JJ in the first two weeks of the season. I am happy to eat my words now. It will be great to see him keep moving up on the WR depth chart. Jones and Cobb showed they are future of this team today.

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 



I was for trading him off last year because him and 🇦🇷 didn't seem to have the chemistry him and Favre had. However, this year, he's looking like the '07 model. So I am EXTREMELY happy to eat my words. In '07, I said JJ reminded me of a Sterling Sharpe lite. Tough as hell and has football speed.

I can see JJ becoming our #1 WR. Finally living up to his potential.

There are times when I'm really happy I'm wrong. This is one of them.

Don't forget Jordy. Jordy had 15 TDs last year and this year he's been pretty good as well. It's gonna be JJ, Jordy, and Cobb next year. Hope 🇹🇹 can find a good #4 in the draft. You know Uncle Ted will be looking for a WR. I'm not very impressed with Boykin so far.
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nerdmann
12 years ago

I was for trading him off last year because him and 🇦🇷 didn't seem to have the chemistry him and Favre had. However, this year, he's looking like the '07 model. So I am EXTREMELY happy to eat my words. In '07, I said JJ reminded me of a Sterling Sharpe lite. Tough as hell and has football speed.

I can see JJ becoming our #1 WR. Finally living up to his potential.

There are times when I'm really happy I'm wrong. This is one of them.

Don't forget Jordy. Jordy had 15 TDs last year and this year he's been pretty good as well. It's gonna be JJ, Jordy, and Cobb next year. Hope 🇹🇹 can find a good #4 in the draft. You know Uncle Ted will be looking for a WR. I'm not very impressed with Boykin so far.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



You KNOW Ted will find someone. It will be a 2nd or 3rd rounder, and the dude will have madd skillz.
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Gaycandybacon
12 years ago
lol starters should not be in the same sentence for WRs. Because each week theres many different WR's making plays, ecspecially for this team cause every wideout can play every WR position..

Imo every WR on this team is a starter, Cause EVERYONE is expected to make plays.
RajiRoar
12 years ago

I was for trading him off last year because him and 🇦🇷 didn't seem to have the chemistry him and Favre had. However, this year, he's looking like the '07 model. So I am EXTREMELY happy to eat my words. In '07, I said JJ reminded me of a Sterling Sharpe lite. Tough as hell and has football speed.

I can see JJ becoming our #1 WR. Finally living up to his potential.

There are times when I'm really happy I'm wrong. This is one of them.

Don't forget Jordy. Jordy had 15 TDs last year and this year he's been pretty good as well. It's gonna be JJ, Jordy, and Cobb next year. Hope 🇹🇹 can find a good #4 in the draft. You know Uncle Ted will be looking for a WR. I'm not very impressed with Boykin so far.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



pump your brakes zombie,

Jones has shown to be much improved this season, and is playing out of his mind right now.

But Last year Jones was being dogged by alot of people for good reason. and remember, it's been 4 years since the "'07 model" and never in that time was he playing like this.

he's had a good 8-game stretch, alot of players have had those and not much else.(Finley 2010, Grant 2007)

while we should be excited for him right now, we can't be above calling this a fluke just yet.

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