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earthquake
Member

12 years ago

the easiest to fill, please let me know who the pack has had since ryan grant a few yrs ago ??
believe me im all for the passing game, but i would love a rb who can get the ball so defenses across the league cant get a chance to kill arod every game !!

Originally Posted by: nyrpack

RB is one of the easiest positions to plug a no-name guy in and get solid production. The last "franchise" RB the packers had was Ahman Green in 2004/2006. Do you know what the packers have done since 2006?

13-3 nfc championship loss
6-10
11-5 playoffs
10-6 superbowl win
15-1 playoffs
55-25

Ok, now tell me which superbowl winning team has had a top 5 RB in the last 5 years... 10 years?

The game has evolved, in most cases if you have a "Franchise" running back, you don't have a winning team. Look at Steven Jackson, Adrian Peterson, Chris Johnson(when he was good), MJD, etc etc, how many games have those teams won over the last 5 years?

If you have to rely on a top flight RB to win, you're not going to win.

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GermanGilbert
Member

12 years ago

#12

the easiest to fill, please let me know who the pack has had since ryan grant a few yrs ago ??

Originally Posted by: nyrpack

It doesn't go down to the Packers to define the position easiest to fill. If the Packers do not get a starting caliber RB out of UDFAs it doesn't mean it's not the easisest position to fill. Arian Foster, UDFA, leading the league in rushing the last 2 years. Alfred Morris, UDFA, pretty darn good for the Redskins, Ryan Grant was an UDFA either btw. It's the easiest position to fill, I totally agree.

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buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#13

Originally Posted by: nyrpack

You missed my point, you don't trade away a WR who is finally coming into his own, it may take another 3 yrs to replace him.

Packers lose Jennings next year, and trade away Jones, that leaves only Jordy as a proven wr, Cobb probably but with what he is showing this year, but that still would leave you with only 2 proven wr's.
Neither is going to be as effective without Jones and/or Jennings.

The Packers have not had great success replacing Grant, but could be just dumb luck, Starks looked like he would be the guy, but injuries have slowed him, Brandon Saine was gonna get a shot, again injuries,Green needs more than 2 weeks to prove himself.
He doesn't work out, well then there is White.
He doesn't work out, maybe Ted will bring in some guy named yellow.

RB's can adapt to an offense much quicker than wr's.

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RajiRoar
Senior Member

12 years ago

#14

James Jones?

no.

a mid-low draft pick?

maybe.

If we are not going to invest in a young/studmuffin RB, then maybe we can get bye using ol' vets who will play cheap for a shot at a ring.

keep in mind, Jones signed a short deal, Jennings may be on the way out, Driver is retiring, Finley sucks...

we need to start stocking up on pass catchers BEFORE we have a problem.

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wpr
Preferred Member

12 years ago

#15

people who want a stud rb are like nations who want a nuke or driving a Lamborghini in any American city. it looks real good sitting there but you can't use it. You only want one because someone else has one.
The stud rb will not get 25 carries and have a 100+ yard game. All you need is some schmoe who will get 15-20 carries and help move the chains. A 3 yard per carry avg is nice but not required.

nerdmann
Premier Member

12 years ago

#16

Originally Posted by: wpr

I'd settle for a dude who's money in short yardage.

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yooperfan
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#17

I'd settle for a dude who's money in short yardage.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I'll take Kuhn.
We don't need Stephan Jackson.

zombieslayer
Registered

12 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: wpr

My man Donald Driver

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Yerko
Senior Member

12 years ago

#19

NYRPack...you know your idea would have been amazing had it been after a JJ drop heavy game or earlier in the year before his 3 games where he caught 2 touchdowns each time.

I =d> you for the thought, but I will side with the majority as well. James Jones belongs on the Packers because there truly is no telling what is going to happen with our receivers in the next 1-2 years. Jennings is up for a new contract and DD is on the last leg of his contract. Giving up JJ would leave us pretty bare at the receiver position.

Don't get me wrong, seeing Steven Jackson in a Packers jersey would be friggin' amazing...

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#20

I believe I posted this in anothe thread.

If part of that trade includes an Oline that can run block and an offensive strategy that concentrates on running the ball then maybe. Peterson would be a mediocre back behind our run blocking and play calling. I went back a took a hard look at all our run plays and believe me when I tell you RB is not the problem.

When you see a team that dominates at running, you see lineman taking their blocks 5 yards down field. Our oline seldom block on the defensive side of the ball. And that is not because the guys can't, it seems to be by design. They want it always to look like we are passing so even in run blocking we backup instead of drive forward. There also have been many times, where we have Crabtree single blocking a DE on the front side of the run. Crabtree may be a good blocking TE, but he is not going to drive DE's with 30+ lbs on him off the ball.

Backs don't do well when they don't have anyplace to run.

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bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

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