Zero2Cool
12 years ago

I don't doubt it. However, put a little better quality CB on him with tighter coverage and he might struggle a little more.
That said all he can do is catch the ball with they throw it his way. It is not his fault who the defense is.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



How often is he going to be facing a #1 or #2 cornerback on the Packers? I think those are reserved for Jordy Nelson and Greg Jennings. 🙂
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12 years ago

How often is he going to be facing a #1 or #2 cornerback on the Packers? I think those are reserved for Jordy Nelson and Greg Jennings. :)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I never, ever said he was going to have to face the #1 or #2 did I? I said and I quote (just in case you didn't read it)

put a little better quality CB on him with tighter coverage and he might struggle a little more.



He has faced some #6 and lower DB's. The tighter coverage could be from those DB's or a #3 or anyone. It could even come from a #2 S not a CB.
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play2win
12 years ago
Here is my list for the 53 to make our roster:

OFFENSE (24)

QBs (2)

Aaron Rodgers, Graham Harrell

RBs (3)

Cedric Benson, James Starks, Alex Green

FB (1)

John Kuhn

WRs (7)

Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, Donald Driver, James Jones, Randall Cobb, Tori Gurley, Jarrett Boykin

TEs (3)

Jermichael Finley, Tom Crabtree, Ryan Taylor

OL (8)

Jeff Saturday, Josh Sitton, TJ Lang, Bryan Bulaga, Marshall Newhouse, Evan Dietrich-Smith, Reggie Wells, Andrew Datko

DEFENSE (26)

DL (7)

BJ Raji, Ryan Pickett, CJ Wilson, Daniel Muir, Jerel Worthy, Mike Daniels, Phillip Merling

ILBs (5)

AJ Hawk, DJ Smith, Rob Francois, Jamari Lattimore, Terrell Manning

OLBs (4)

Clay Matthews, Nick Perry, Erik Walden, Dezman Moses

CBs (5)

Tramon Williams, Davon House, Sam Shields, Jarrett Bush, Casey Heyward

S (5)

Charles Woodson, Morgan Burnett, MD Jennings, Jerron McMillian, Sean Richardson

SPECIALISTS (3)

K Mason Crosby
P Tim Masthay
LS Brett Goode

PUP (2)

Andrew Quarless, Derek Sherrod


IR (1)

Desmond Bishop

SUPSENDED (1)

Mike Neal

PS (8)

Otis Merrill, Lawrence Guy, Curenski Gilleylen, B.J. Coleman, Nic Cooper, Brandon Bostick, Sampson Genus, Don Barclay

Thinking Borel might be traded for a 7th round pick. Also possible Gurley might be able to get some work in at TE in a pinch with his added weight if need be - though I haven't heard anything on this, just a fan's perspective. I like the idea of keeping more defenders, 7 on the DL to allow for a good rotation (knowing how quickly we can score), and 5 Safeties, thinking McMillan might be able to take some reps at CB in a pinch with his coverage abilities.

Coleman may not stick, but worth a try. Sorry to lose DJ Williams, Saine, Levine, but none of these guys forced their way into gaining a roster position. Levine did a nice job, but I think Richardson has more potential and is worth keeping on the roster, as I doubt he'd stick on the PS.

Keeping 7 WRs will allow for us to possibly make a trade before deadline (week 6, 10/16/12) to shore up another position if need be.



nerdmann
12 years ago
They might IR DJ Williams.

I could see thim IRing Starks in order to keep Saine.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

They might IR DJ Williams.

I could see thim IRing Starks in order to keep Saine.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



So, IR one injured person in favor of another injured person? I don't think either James Starks nor Brandon Saine have shown they could stay healthy. I could be wrong here.
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beast
12 years ago

WRs (7)

Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, Donald Driver, James Jones, Randall Cobb, Tori Gurley, Jarrett Boykin

TEs (3)

Jermichael Finley, Tom Crabtree, Ryan Taylor

PUP (2)

Andrew Quarless, Derek Sherrod

Originally Posted by: play2win 



IMO it'd be better if you cut (or traded) a WR and kept TE Williams. You say Williams hasn't forced his way onto this roster but he's shown more than Gurley and Boykins combined. (Boykins getting a lot of hype for beating a CB that's not gonna be playing in the NFL after the preseason)

Also the Dolphins GM traded their best WR and CB away for a 2nd and two 3rd as they're clearly rebuilding and getting rid of everyone whom is questionable off the field... Philban might be interested in one of his former WRs.... if the GM is willing to listen... their GM has the final say.

And Zombo should be on the PUP list.
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play2win
12 years ago
beast, I think I erred on my comments regarding DJ Williams. I just haven't seen him produce on the field since his selection like I thought he might. Sounds from some recent articles I've read he's had a good camp, but injured.
beast
12 years ago

beast, I think I erred on my comments regarding DJ Williams. I just haven't seen him produce on the field since his selection like I thought he might. Sounds from some recent articles I've read he's had a good camp, but injured.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Yeah I surprised by one article that said he might of had the best camp of anyone as far as improvement. That one surprised me.

But Williams is a TE/WR tweener (with out the speed, but he has the quickness) that can also play some FB and it's been reported the TEs have been helping out at FB some with Kuhn injured. And honestly I bit disappointed, I thought TE Taylor would come on more as well... though in OTAs it was said Taylor was becoming one of Rodgers favorite targets and he hasn't been working with Rodgers much in training camp ... though when he did a little bit for one game seems like Rodgers was more than willing to dump it off to Taylor and target him and trust him when they blitzed.


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Zero2Cool
11 years ago
Liked him then, like him now. :)

Seems like most people are falling in love with Boykin. But I think it's mainly because they want an underdog to root for and most of the other under dogs aren't stepping it up. I think Boykin is PS at best, at the moment for the Packers. He made some plays against a back-up CB who was playing very loose to make sure not to get burned over the top. It was a good route and he didn't drop it them but I don't see it as special, just no mistakes. I'd like to see more upside/potential.

Originally Posted by: beast 



What I've seen of him, he seems to catch everything thrown his way.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




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play2win
11 years ago
Jones' leaving is a real testament to Boykin's development. I'm really looking forward to seeing him at the #3 WR slot. I believe he will be overall, more productive than the very productive and reliable Jones.
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