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Pack93z
16 years ago
Firing Mike McCarthy or Sanders isn't going to make up for the lack of talent in the box.. we don't have anyone outside of Kampman that can beat his man with any consistency.

Granted a more creative stunting group would help, but we just can't win battles...

The more I watch the Linebackers on this team, the more I would disagree with anyone that says Moss is doing a good job with this group. Mental mistake after mental mistake.. watch the tape.. they missed or let loose of people time after time.. compounded with lack of pressure.. we get handled in the area. On run defense.. they are sitting on their heels.. it made me sick to focus on the linebackers of this team.. it really did.

Kampman, Bishop, Willams and Woodson played a good game.. throw Harris in there too.. short of that... yikes on defense.

Other made a play here or there, but were invisible for the most part.

+3 in the turnover battle in a must win game and we lose.. speaks volumes.

We were okay on offense, but Rodgers missed several throws and in the last drive post penalty (bogus call I must add) started looking for the big play instead of just recovering yards and giving us a shot.

He didn't lose this game though.. per theme.. defense lost this game and season. Period.
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Wamzlee
16 years ago
Let's not forget that we were calling for Mike Stock's head a week ago.
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Packers_Finland
16 years ago

Did you see that game?

"go.pack.go." wrote:



You're freakin crazy...

Yes Sanders

No McCarthy

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



I'm not crazy. This team deserves a coach that doesn't challenge at stupid situations and always, ALWAYS make bad play calls on key plays.
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago

The empty backfield makes me sick.

"gotarace" wrote:


Every time we go to it, I know the game is good as lost.
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all_about_da_packers
16 years ago
This thread is the definition of over-reacting after a game.

Will anyone point out that Sanders made adjustments in the second half two weeks in a row that made our run D better.

I'm not saying Sanders is blame free, but the man has been trying. Even with his trying our D is struggling, then maybe, just maybe, our talent on D is lacking. Especially after injuries to 3 of our starters from last year.
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gakko
16 years ago
I've long been a big proponent of the ZBS, I still am, but I believe we should get a ZBS guru in to coach it, because who on the staff today has long experience with it? When Jagodzinski left we lost the guy with the knowledge.

Also dump Sanders and his vanilla scheme.
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all_about_da_packers
16 years ago

Firing Mike McCarthy or Sanders isn't going to make up for the lack of talent in the box.. we don't have anyone outside of Kampman that can beat his man with any consistency.

Granted a more creative stunting group would help, but we just can't win battles...

"pack93z" wrote:



THE VOICE OF REASON.

One thing though 93z, I think Bishop was way way out of his element in this game. He should be at MLB, not WLB, because he is terrible against the pass.

Hell of a hitter, and has some talent on blitzes. But the way he was biting on stop and go routes on TEs, and hesitating a moment on TE running patterns... made me believe he was badly out of his element.

That has to fall on the coaches, not putting the player in a position that suits him more.
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Packers_Finland
16 years ago

This thread is the definition of over-reacting after a game.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



That's probably true, but I want to complain while I'm still mad.
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DakotaT
16 years ago

This thread is the definition of over-reacting after a game.

Will anyone point out that Sanders made adjustments in the second half two weeks in a row that made our run D better.

I'm not saying Sanders is blame free, but the man has been trying. Even with his trying our D is struggling, then maybe, just maybe, our talent on D is lacking. Especially after injuries to 3 of our starters from last year.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



Did he ever make an adjustment the drage that they consistently fifteen yards a pop on? Don't defend this clown anymore. He's a perfect example of a guy that tagged along another D-coordinator, then all of a sudden it's his show. The GBP can afford and do much better that Mr. Vanilla.
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buckeyepackfan
16 years ago
Start at the top if ou all want to start firing people.
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