4PackGirl
13 years ago
but i'm cheap, foster.
ridiculously cheap.
seriously though, have you heard bad things about astro vans? other than the god awful way they look?!? lol.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago
I've always hated the idea of owning car and making payments. I did it once when I was 18, swore I'd never do it again. Then I was told all of the negative crap was taken off my credit report and only my stuff was left. My original plan was to drop $3k on a 5k car and make payments to help build my credit. But living in Colorado and driving to Wisconsin two or three times a year, I wanted a safe vehicle that was reliable for my girls. I really liked the Forte when I had one for a week.

Off the lot was just over $14k. I put 4 down. And now that I'm back living in Wisconsin, no longer needing to make said drive, ... paying hundreds of dollars for car payment and insurance every month is starting to bother me. The only setback is the car is basically the only 'reward' I have for how far I've come. When I drive it, I feel like I've gotten somewhere. I dunno how to explain it. It's almost like a trophy.

But any trophy that you lose this much money on ... I dunno if it's worth it ... especially since it's obviously not helping my credit score improve with Chase Bank ... enough to get a damn loan.
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Porforis
13 years ago
I think credit ratings in general are quite ridiculous. I've had two student loans, a car loan, a credit card, and a couple other things on my credit history with zero missed payments and my deadbeat ex-roommate who spent a solid 80% of his income on food and booze (and didn't pay rent) happened to have a better credit score than I did when we first moved in. And my rating is still "good". The entire system is designed into training people into borrowing large percentages of their income and make a fortune off of them in interest. Buncha horseshit.
dfosterf
13 years ago

but i'm cheap, foster.
ridiculously cheap.
seriously though, have you heard bad things about astro vans? other than the god awful way they look?!? lol.

Originally Posted by: 4PackGirl 



I actually know a lot about cars. My problem is this. Since I'm perceived as a friggin' "know it all" dick-head, rightly or wrongly deserved, my opinion on your vehicle choice has been minimized. I hope you get lucky, but that is a tranny that will statistically fail, and the guy at the service dept. is gonna look at you with a blank stare and say, "whatever" we will fix it for 2k.

OR it will go forever. Flip a coin, those are the approximate odds, imo.



DakotaT
13 years ago
People really need to start getting back to the old ways of doing business. Buy only what you can pay for. The hell with credit cards and loans. And if you do use your credit card, pay it off every month.
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Porforis
13 years ago

People really need to start getting back to the old ways of doing business. Buy only what you can pay for. The hell with credit cards and loans. And if you do use your credit card, pay it off every month.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I see plenty of people that get into rough situations by buying tons of toys they can barely afford then their car breaks down and they're screwed and have zero sympathy for them, but I've also seen people that have had a seemingly stable job and live within their means and keep an emergency fund that get screwed by life. I live fairly frugally and keep roughly six months worth of rent/food saved up at all times but if my car blew up and the wife's fell apart I'd still be in a spot where I can either blow my emergency fund on a $3000 car or get a more reliable car for more like $6-7k and suddenly have a car loan to worry about. Big ticket items are very, very hard to not go into debt over - who the heck is going to keep ~$8000 sitting around in a bank account instead of paying off student loans or investing?
DakotaT
13 years ago

I see plenty of people that get into rough situations by buying tons of toys they can barely afford then their car breaks down and they're screwed and have zero sympathy for them, but I've also seen people that have had a seemingly stable job and live within their means and keep an emergency fund that get screwed by life. I live fairly frugally and keep roughly six months worth of rent/food saved up at all times but if my car blew up and the wife's fell apart I'd still be in a spot where I can either blow my emergency fund on a $3000 car or get a more reliable car for more like $6-7k and suddenly have a car loan to worry about. Big ticket items are very, very hard to not go into debt over - who the heck is going to keep ~$8000 sitting around in a bank account instead of paying off student loans or investing?

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



I keep around $10 to $20K in the bank at all times. I probably should just pay off my school debt, but it's a 3% and I like to have some liquidity if I need it.


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Porforis
13 years ago

I keep around $10 to $20K in the bank at all times. I probably should just pay off my school debt, but it's a 3% and I like to have some liquidity if I need it.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I'm probably at a different stage of my life too, I'm hopefully transitioning from my first "real", long-term job that still pays shit to a decent-paying job, time to think about nuking the wife's student loans and saving for a house... No reason to have two debts at once if I can avoid it, sadly it'll probably be 5 years before I get to that point but meh. I'm 25 and the wife's 23 for context.

Some of the people I was talking about are 28-33 and still living with their parents, constantly put in 50% at work, spend all their money on computer stuff then demand to work from home when their car breaks down and they can't fix/replace it. That's the sort of attitude that pisses me off, but yeah, there are a ton of people out there that live within their means and get screwed by life.
dhazer
13 years ago
I just bought a 2007 silverado back in November just to help build my credit or as I said "to become an American because most Americans are in debt". But the thing is I switched jobs and with the pay increase covers the truck payment so I am not really hurting myself. My student loans are paid off, house is paid off and my other car is paid off and my 2 quads are paid off. So I say Zero find a way to get yourself a payment you can live with.

Ok also a really big reason I am not worried is because I am not married or have kids.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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DakotaT
13 years ago



Ok also a really big reason I am not worried is because I am not married or have kids.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Grow some nads and become miserable like the rest of us. 🤐


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