wpr
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12 years ago

He was limited to 140 characters by Twitter, but Eliot Wolf, the assistant director of player personnel for the Green Bay Packers, didn’t even need that many to make his point about the performance of his boss on the second day of the NFL draft.

“Ted Thompson (is) killing it right now,” Wolf tweeted from the Packers’ draft room.

Killing it, indeed.

Despite assembling a Super Bowl-winning team in 2010, Thompson has been a lightning rod for criticism since becoming general manager of the Packers in 2005. He’s been called too conservative, too rigid, too patient in building a team.

He’s been ripped for his drafts, particularly his early ones, due to his penchant for trading down instead of up. He has been chided for virtually ignoring free agency.

Thompson started chipping away at his image as a draft-day conservative when he traded up into the first round to take outside linebacker and pass-rushing whiz Clay Matthews in 2009. But while that didn’t eliminate his conservative stigma for good, Friday’s performance might have.

Just months after a season in which his defense suffered a complete meltdown, Thompson became a rambling, gambling man in the draft room. He was on the attack from the beginning. He had a defense to fix and nothing, it seemed, was going to stand in his way.

A day after taking USC outside linebacker Nick Perry — a much-needed bookend for Matthews — in the first round, Thompson quickly showed that he wasn’t messing around. He traded up twice — TWICE! — in the second round Friday to add defensive players he coveted.

Thompson’s first trade jumped the Packers up eight spots to take Michigan State defensive tackle Jerel Worthy, who may be a pariah to University of Wisconsin fans but in many ways is a younger B.J. Raji. Draft-watchers were barely digesting that move when Thompson traded up into the bottom portion of the second round and grabbed cornerback Casey Hayward of Vanderbilt at pick No. 62.

“I’ve gone crazy,” Thompson said, joking after his day’s work was done.



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play2win
12 years ago
How fucking cool is that?!!!!
rabidgopher04
12 years ago
Whatever it takes to build the best team while not sacrificing our long-term ability to acquire players is all that we ask. Thanks, Ted.
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macbob
12 years ago
I think the criticisms of TT's early drafts where he traded down to accumulate additional picks conveniently overlooks the dreadfull depth of the team he inherited from Mike Sherman, who traded up in the draft (in the 3rd round for a punter who couldn't even beat out the camp leg brought in that year, so we carried two punters on the roster that year because Sherman didn't want to admit his mistake?) at the expense of additional draft picks.

Trading down in those early drafts were the quickest way Ted Thompson had to build our depth back up again.
play2win
12 years ago

I think the criticisms of TT's early drafts where he traded down to accumulate additional picks conveniently overlooks the dreadfull depth of the team he inherited from Mike Sherman, who traded up in the draft (in the 3rd round for a punter who couldn't even beat out the camp leg brought in that year, so we carried two punters on the roster that year because Sherman didn't want to admit his mistake?) at the expense of additional draft picks.

Trading down in those early drafts were the quickest way Ted Thompson had to build our depth back up again.

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Here, here! Well said. Ted was left with a trash heap to clean up... Not quite as big as the one Reggie McKenzie has to clean up in OAK, but close.
DakotaT
12 years ago
Ted Thompson deserves criticism sometimes because he does make mistakes. Letting Cullen Jenkins go was a mistake, and it cost us another Super Bowl. But overall, he has been an incredible talent evaluator and terrific GM. He hires quality coaches and scouts and lets them do their job. What else can you ask for?
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Ted Thompson deserves criticism sometimes because he does make mistakes. Letting Cullen Jenkins go was a mistake, and it cost us another Super Bowl. But overall, he has been an incredible talent evaluator and terrific GM. He hires quality coaches and scouts and lets them do their job. What else can you ask for?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Cullen Jenkins chose to leave because the Packers didn't spend big on him before free agency, he got butt-hurt and its understandable. Ted Thompson let Daryn Colledge go. There's a difference. And yes, he deserves criticism and praise, like everyone else. And the sky is blue and grass is green. [duh]




I'm looking forward to watching his press conference. Ted Thompson doesn't say much, but it's been interesting to me nonetheless lol.


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Wade
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12 years ago

Ted Thompson deserves criticism sometimes because he does make mistakes. Letting Cullen Jenkins go was a mistake, and it cost us another Super Bowl. But overall, he has been an incredible talent evaluator and terrific GM. He hires quality coaches and scouts and lets them do their job. What else can you ask for?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Why, one can ask that he do what *I* want. After all I'm a really smart fan. He's just a Ted.

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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Why, one can ask that he do what *I* want. After all I'm a really smart fan. He's just a Ted.

[grin1]

Originally Posted by: Wade 



Wade, maybe next year Ted will trade the 32nd overall pick for an addition 2nd and 5th rounder to use on the OL. There's always next year bud! 😛
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DakotaT
12 years ago
Yes Wade, I'm not sure we will ever have the Sherminator's O-line again, but our offense last year was 2nd ever in points production and our QB was not really beat up. What exactly do you want done differently? You ground and pound when you have someone named Ponder for QB, when you have someone named Rodgers you throw.
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