Zero2Cool
12 years ago

All you have to do is watch nearly any depiction of female orgasm on screen to get an idea of how a woman is “supposed” to react during sex.

From "When Harry Met Sally" to "Sex and the City" to your basic porn film, women in the throes of passion aren’t just shouting their ecstasy from the rooftops - they’re moaning with pleasure. Loudly.

But is this just cinematic license, or is there really something to noisy sex?

Experts wondered the same thing. Last year, Gayle Brewer of the University of Central Lancashire and Colin Hendrie of the University of Leeds published their research on the topic - technically known as “copulatory vocalization” - in the Archives of Sexual Behavior. In the study, they asked 71 sexually active heterosexual women between ages 18 and 48 for more details about vocalization during sex.

The researchers found that many of the women did make noise, but not necessarily while they were having an orgasm. Instead, 66% said that they moaned to speed up their partner’s climax, and 87% stated that they vocalized during sex to boost his self-esteem.

Are female orgasms really just a 'bonus'?

“While female orgasms were most commonly experienced during foreplay, copulatory vocalizations were reported to be made most often before and simultaneously with male ejaculation,” write the researchers. Women also reported making noise to relieve boredom, fatigue and pain/discomfort during sex.

So is female vocalization during sex just a performance for a guy’s benefit? (After all, Meg Ryan’s over-the-top moans were meant to prove a point to “Harry” that men are easily duped by a fake orgasm.)

“There isn’t a lot of research in this area,” says Kristen Mark, a sexuality researcher at Indiana University, “but we’re bombarded with images through mainstream media that tell us moaning is associated with orgasm and sexual pleasure. So it would be a fairly wise faking strategy to moan since men already tend to associate moaning with orgasm.”

Of course, there’s nothing smart about faking it.

“If you’re faking an orgasm, you are signaling to your partner that he is doing everything right, when in fact he isn’t,” says sex educator and author Patty Brisben. “Use moaning as a way of signaling that you are excited and things really are feeling good, not as a way to hide that they aren’t.”

Fake or not, women aren’t the only primates who vocalize during sex. Research in the animal kingdom reveals that female baboons, for example, have a variety of copulation calls, which appear to relate to their fertility: The vocalizations tend to become more complex when the females are closer to ovulation, and also vary when a female is mating with a higher-ranked male baboon. And female macaque monkeys give a shout to help trigger their mates’ orgasm, too.

Performances and primatologists aside, vocalizing during sex can actually be a great tool to help women get what they want in bed. As I discussed in my column a couple of weeks ago on the topic of talking about sex, it isn’t always easy to translate sexual thought into action, so a little strategic moaning can definitely help get the point across.

“Women are learning to take responsibility for their own sexual needs and wants in the bedroom,” explains Brisben. “We need to take this one step further and give ourselves permission to become teachers. Use vocalization to teach your partner what feels good. It can help you say, 'stop, go, yes, more please' - without sounding like a traffic cop.”

And when it comes to noise, “partner benefit isn’t the only piece of the puzzle,” says Kristen Mark. “Perhaps making noise turns some women on and helps them experience pleasure.”

Brisben concurs: “I think there are many women who need to be vocal to help themselves achieve orgasm - it helps move them and their orgasm along. There are certainly phases. As a woman gets into it, she may become extremely vocal, and then move into a period of quiet as she is on the verge.”

So do what feels right to you. Any other benefits are just a great bonus. And when it comes to “copulatory vocalization,” perhaps men should take a lesson from the ladies.

“Women understand that moaning is a turn-on for guys, and many women ultimately enjoy it because they’ve made an effort to push a little beyond what comes naturally," says Logan Levkoff, a sex educator and author of a guide for men entitled "How To Get Your Wife to Have Sex With You."

"But sexual self-esteem is a two-way street, and, for their part during sex, guys should aim for more than a single grunt at the end. It’s not about faking or doing something you don’t want to, but more about being sexually present and in sync with each other.”

So let’s all make some noise.

Ian Kerner  wrote:


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Nonstopdrivel
12 years ago
I have always found it interesting that while men tend to associate loud vocalizations with sexual satisfaction, during their strongest, most intense, most satisfying orgasms, women are often entirely silent. Vocalizations often indicate that the orgasm isn't very intense or that it's not satisfying at all.

If you want to know whether she's actually getting off, stop focusing so much on the sounds she is making and start concentrating on the other sensations. Are her vaginal walls clenching rhythmically? Does she suddenly get a bit (or a lot) wetter? Is it hard for her to breathe? Do her pupils dilate? Is she suddenly clutching you spasmodically, rolling you up in her, enveloping you with her body, so to speak?

These are the signs that are a lot harder to fake.

Also, the way a woman acts after having an orgasm is subtly different than the way they act after not climaxing. There's just a quiet gentleness and relaxation, a glow, that isn't there otherwise.

But it takes perception and humility to observe. If you just assume she's always satisfied, you won't notice the signs.

And women, for the love of God, stop faking it! You'll never get what you want if you are faking it, and it's just insulting and offensive when we figure it out on the spot or find out later. We men aren't stupid and don't appreciate being treated like we are. If it sucked, just be up front about it. We can handle it. It will just give us that much more incentive to practice some more and perfect our technique.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago
It was the first time I had slept with a red head and I heard quite often that red heads are more vocal during sex because they are more sensitive. I can't say I ever put a whole lot of attention into that theory, until this girl came along, lol. She was like a damn firetruck! The first time I did the typical male stereotype and took it as a compliment. We started getting more serious and I really wanted to please her and it was hard as hell to distinguish what was pleasing her more than what was not. I brought it up one night and found out she did it to help get herself in the mood and closer to orgasm and also of course "because every man loves a loud woman". I explained to her that I'd rather a quiet thoroughly satisfied woman than an alarm clock going off for 20 minutes. That night she let herself get caught in the moment, let loose and really enjoyed it without me going deaf. It felt so amazing I didn't even last but two minutes. Thing is though, for her and myself, those two minutes were more satisfying than the other times that lasted much longer.

Communication is important and it's something we are all capable of doing on some level and yet ... we choose not to?
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Nonstopdrivel
12 years ago
I couldn't agree more. I have never understood where women got the idea that men like screamers. Maybe a few insecure guys do, but I sure don't. Don't get me wrong -- I love the sounds associated with sex (I'm a very aural person). But something as over the top as screaming is just distracting, and it's not sensual. I love sensuality above all.
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4PackGirl
12 years ago
hmmm...interesting discussion again.

never been a screamer & never been a faker. for me, it's something i can't fake - it's either real or it's not. the difference is VERY obvious.

oh geez...i'm blushing now.


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I couldn't agree more. I have never understood where women got the idea that men like screamers. Maybe a few insecure guys do, but I sure don't. Don't get me wrong -- I love the sounds associated with sex (I'm a very aural person). But something as over the top as screaming is just distracting, and it's not sensual. I love sensuality above all.

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Agreed a lout of loud unnecessary noise makes it a lot more difficult to know where she is.
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12 years ago

hmmm...interesting discussion again.

never been a screamer & never been a faker. for me, it's something i can't fake - it's either real or it's not. the difference is VERY obvious.

oh geez...i'm blushing now.


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poor little thing. I am sure you will get over it.
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Nonstopdrivel
12 years ago

Agreed a lout of loud unnecessary noise makes it a lot more difficult to know where she is.

Originally Posted by: wpr 


Well, I would hope you'd be able to feel her! [down]

I kid, I kid!
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Pack93z
12 years ago


oh geez...i'm blushing now.

Originally Posted by: 4PackGirl 



I am a sucker by nature in regards to females... but somehow I find it hard to believe that this statement made you blush.

Either that, your mellowing quickly. 😉


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
4PackGirl
12 years ago
well it wasn't the statement, per se, that made me blush - it was what i really wanted to say but chose my words carefully that made me blush. 😃
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